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First Blood...38 Short Colt

Posted By: Critter Gitter

First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/03/2012 5:40 PM

After an uneventful Wisconsin deer season, I thought I'd share a picture of my new TC barrel (38 Short Colt) and its first "trophy".
Posted By: Ramjet-SS

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/03/2012 7:55 PM

Awesome
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/03/2012 8:03 PM

Good show!
Posted By: Jeffx

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/03/2012 8:39 PM

Hay, aint nothing wrong with that, I love me some squirrel huntin' and if you can hit a squirl you can hit a DEER...
Posted By: KRal

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/03/2012 10:30 PM

 Originally Posted By: Jeffx
Hay, aint nothing wrong with that, I love me some squirrel huntin' and if you can hit a squirl you can hit a DEER...


X2....congrats!
Posted By: racksmasher

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 12:28 AM

Great practice.
Posted By: MIHunter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 1:08 AM

Good shooting!
Posted By: llhunter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 1:29 AM

Sweet looking gun!!
Posted By: Critter Gitter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 12:28 PM

Here's a picture of a 38 Short Colt compared to a 9mm case:
Posted By: Bearbait in NM

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 5:04 PM

Critter,

That is one nifty "little" gun you have there. Your set-up looks like a surgical lead launcher to me ;^) Your bullet picture seems to confirm it. Pretttty coool. I once had a Contender set up similarly using one of the old 45 Shot Shell barrels, but that barrel was pretty weak on the lead bullet accuracy.

Craig
Posted By: Critter Gitter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 7:24 PM

Thanks all for the compliments, it was hard to resist the temptation to go out and find a squirrel until after we broke deer camp, but I managed.

I'm pretty excited to give this barrel a workout and see what I can do with a cartridge that's been more or less obsolete for over a century...I wonder when the last time a squirrel has been shot with a 38 SC? I have plans for 110 grain HPs and prairie dogs, once I get some time to do some load development.
Posted By: 358429

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 7:30 PM

Critter Gitter

That bullet looks like the Lyman/Ideal 115 gr. wad cutter. How much difference is there in that cartridge than the .38S&W? Is there a story about why you picked that round?

Back in the days when I shot the Contender, I had a .357 bull barrel, since crimping is not an issue with a single shot, I used to load a 77 gr. wad cutter into .357 brass and seat the bulled all of the way into the web over 2 gr. of BE, that made a great small game load.
Posted By: Critter Gitter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 8:09 PM

You identified the bullet correctly, Lyman 358425. I don't think there's much difference between the two rounds ballistically. The case diameter of the 38 S&W is larger due to thicker brass. The diameters of short and long Colt are the same as 357 Mag and 38 Special...so I can use my 357 dies for reloading except for bullet seating, then I just use a 9mm die.

Why?...I like stuff that's different I guess...but I want to do exactly what you were doing with the 357 Mag, a light bullet at moderate velocities for small game. I would really like to find one of the older Lyman/Ideal molds for one of the 75-85 grain wadcutters. I was originally thinking something in 32 caliber, but those barrels with slow twists aren't common with the custom barrel makers. Barrels in .358 are common with a twist rate I was looking for.
Posted By: 358429

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 12/04/2012 9:01 PM

Critter Gitter

All I can say is good for you.. There is a lot of talk here by the "wrist breaker magnum" folks, but there is some real fun to be had with the small game stuff.

My youngest son has and old, H&R .38S&W, I have cut down .38 Spl. brass, but as you have noted is is smaller diameter. We loaded the 115 gr. wad cutters but it was a bit off.

I, after a half century of reloading, really like the various possibilities of the .357/.358 stuff.

One of my favorite small game loads of all time was the 77 gr. wadcutter in a .38spl. case over 4 gr. of BE, in my 4 5/8" Blackhawk. That load accounted for a lot of squirrels, ruffed grouse and wood chucks.

Those old Lyman molds in the light weights are pretty hard to find these days. But I would be willing to loan that mold out so you could make up a batch.

Take Care .. John
Posted By: Mike_B

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 01/03/2013 2:41 AM

Where did you get your barrel from? This is a very interesting caliber & gun choice.
Posted By: Critter Gitter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 01/03/2013 1:53 PM

It's an MGM.
Posted By: Mike_B

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 01/03/2013 2:43 PM

Ok, thanx for the reply. From what reading I've done on this caliber it seems to be the most logical small game choice for a handgun; from a reloading stand point. Especially since I already have other 357 & 38 specials that I want to start hand loading for.
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 01/03/2013 2:51 PM

Nice shootin' Critter!
Posted By: Critter Gitter

Re: First Blood...38 Short Colt - 01/03/2013 6:04 PM

I haven't been able to do any more shooting due to other priorities and poor weather for load development, but it does show good potential for doing what I want it to do with bullets of 125 grains or less.
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