My Colorado Cow

This is the BIG cow I shot this past November in SW Colorado with the Patriot XP.

Congrats XP.
Great to see that.
Let's hear some details about the hunt.

great pics! thanks fer the viewing, and congrats. ohhhhh i'd love to hunt them suckers.

That looks like a pretty good sized cow. Congratulations. What round were you using in the XP?

Cartridge is the 7.82 Patriot (30 cal. short action Lazzeroni case) pushing a 180 grain SGK @ 2875 fps from the muzzle.

Here is the story originally written on November 8th:
This was an unusual hunt to be sure. First ran into some bumps on Friday when we went east of Peublo to to shoot at extended ranges checking actual shooting against Exbal. Steve ran into some problems with inconsistency only to discover that he had his forend contacting the barrel. Also a change in powder lots was likley a culprit. After going back and getting some ammo loaded with the older powder that was set-up for ITRC and doing some light sanding in the barrel channel, the 6.5-284 put 2 shots within 3-4 inches at 600 yards. Not bad for a novice shooter, eh?
My problems are not fully solved yet. My trajectory did not match up with Exbal (first time this has ever happened). Have several possibilities that will not be known for sure until I do some more in depth checking (Checking has since been done {sent scope to burris) and it was discovered that I had a 2-7 BP reticle instead of the 3-12 reticle and that is what threw me off). None the less Since we did actual field shooting I knew where my Zero, 425 & 525 yard zero's were on my ballistic plex reticle. Because of running into these problems we didn't leave Pueblo until early Saturday moring (Yes, the season opens on Saturday morning). Because of some very hectic work schedules we decided to get some good rest and miss the morning hunt (Something that neither of us had ever done before). We get up on the mountain around noon and set-up camp. By 1:00 we are heading up the mountain ready for elk. We make it up to the main ridge and head south along another ridge line that takes us to our favorite spotting ridge which is also away from any other hunters. Getting there takes some time and effort as Marc can attest. We don't see anything except a buck from our main spotting ridge, so we began heading farther in, on up to the place where Marc and I shot our elk last year. Right before we went over the top of the last ridge I looked back one more time and spotted two elk over a mile away in a small L-shaped meadow. It was way down and was going to be a race against time trying to get there before before we lost light or before the elk moved into cover. We walked fast and yes at times were running (XP's unloaded). We finally made it to the top of a ridge that put us 385 yards from the elk (I was sighted in @ 379 yards with my 7.82 Patriot). We were in a lot of scrub oak and had a very difficult time trying to get a clear shot thru the scrub. The two cows were unaware of our presence but there was a real concern they would simply walk into the cover and be forever lost. The problem was two-fold. One I couldn't get as steady of a rest as I wanted and second, there was a glare which made it difficult to see clearly. Steve was spotting for me and I was sitting and had his pack on my lap for a rest. this was a first ever position for me and one that I will probably not use in the future for shots over 300 yards. Simply said, my first shot was a miss. The benefit with a spotter shooter set-up is I am reloading automatically while Steve is giving me information about the animal. Because of the distance and the wind being in our favor the cow was not real sppoked and the second shot was set free with the welcome meat report and the animal going down immeaditley. At this point the second cow finally makes her presence known and now we swith roles and I am now spotting fo r Steve. Steve is shooting his trusty 6.5-284 XP sighted max popint blk. range of 350 yds. at the shot I don't hear a meat report (we are also both wearing hearing protection). but the cow moves down and a little to the right into cover. I kept waiting for her to move further right, back into the open for Steve to make a second shot. But she didn't. At this point we are unsure if Steve has hit the elk or what. We have to go down a ridge and top a second one and we are still 150 yards away with a steep ridge to still go down to get the elk. After we top the ridge we now see Steve's cow. Steve is now able to go prone and makes a shot. Not hearing a meat report and seeing the bullet impact behind her I tell Steve to make another shot. Steve's third shot put her down on the spot. What we later learned is the first shot @ 150 yards was a perfect lung, but that is the way with elk. You can make a lethal shot and they don't act as if they have been hit at all. His 1st shot was slightly low into the rocks, as in the excitement of it all he aimed dead center @ 385 for a 350 MPBR-- A LITTLE TOO LOW.
Now it is about a half hour before sunset and we have two elk down a long ways from camp less than 50 yards apart on our first afternoon--Now The Work Begins! We decide to quarter both animals that night. We get back into camp around 10:30 PM. We also carreid the backstraps with us. To say we are tired is an understatement. The following morning we get up and make the decision to take the two elk out intwo trips. If you have ever packed elk quarters, you realize you don't often take out two elk with two men on only two trips. We think this is possible because Steve's elk is a smaller cow. Mine is one of the larger ones we have ever seen. We de-boned what we would carry out to limit the weight. I carried out Steve's elk myself while Steve took one of my cow's hind-quarter. A lot of bicycling this summer had prepared me for this. Since I was not having feet problems as I did last year I was able to carry weight easily. We sure did miss Marc & Mitch this year though. We usually have three guys to take out one elk in one trip. The second trip I carried my hind-quarter out and Steve carried the front shoulders of my elk. We got done about 4:30 Sunday afternoon. We had a celebration supper in Bayfiled with John Dustin who is a writer for Precision Shooting and then went to Pagosa Springs for some relaxation in the hot springs. We had a lot of fun and put a lot of effort in a short period of time. Both of us are stiff today, but we plan to do some shooting at 1K today east of Pueblo.

Great story Ernie, & should make some mighty sweet eating.

Tell us some more about your caliber/gun combination. Who did the gun and what bullets/powders work best? I'm looking to redo one of my guns to another caliber. This looks interesting. I'll be using it primarily for Mule Deer and Elk.

Thanks...

Congrats!!! looks like she has a lot of steaks too.

The 7.82 Patriot is Lazzeroni's short action case. I use Lazz brass (very expensive) Federal Match Magnum primers, H-4350 and 180 grain Sierra Game Kings with a MV of around 2785. 15.75 inch Tight Neck Shilen Select Match Barrel sporter taper(would chose a Broughton now), H-S Stock
greg Tannel www.gtrtooling.com built my Patriot and my 6.5-284 XP's He is one of the best. Holds groups in the .4 range at 100 yards for 5-shots @ 100 yards.

1 full day hauling that momma, and my elk out, was a blast, i tell ya'. When we went home that next day, my fiancee (not Ernie), tried to give me a leg rub, and my quads were so sore that i was grimacing the whole time. I'll be riding my bike before next season more-- for sure.

Ernie, how close would the 300 WSM come to that monster of yours?

Hey ss...I was just wondering the same thing. The Hodgdons annual handbook shows the .300WSM shooting a 180gr bullet from a 24" barrel at 2884fps (61gr H380) to 2959fps (62.5gr H414). Wonder what it would really do in a handgun length barrel.

Dan,
The 300 WSM would be about 300-350 fps slower than the rifle data in a 15.5-16 inch barrel (mine is a lightweight sporter 15.75 inches before brake). I figure 40 FPS per inch of barrel.
Probably a 100 fps or a tad more slower would be my guess. I will be trying one of Richard Graves 190 grain bullets for elk which have a BC of around .600 (180 SGK BC is .501).

I just realize I gave the wrong MV. Correct MV is 2785---NOT 2875! Mind is the first to go