group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 1:50 PM
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This load is safe in my gun and has been pressure tested but should be approached with caution as it is a MAX load. My gun has digested bunches of them with absolutely no problem. reflex264
Last edited by reflex264; 05/11/2012 10:29 PM.
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 2:32 PM
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Looks like you've got yourself an accurate load! Good shooting!
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 2:42 PM
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That is a mighty fine 3-shot group. NOW, the big question is, why did you stop after 3 rounds - and why not is not an answer.
Great shooting from a good shooter - keep it up.
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 3:58 PM
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 4:01 PM
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Vance in AK.
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Looks good Reflex! Most guys would struggle to do that with a rifle.
Vance in AK.
Matthew 6:33 "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you."
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 5:22 PM
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I was getting ready for a hunt when I shot that group. Every day I would go to the range and shoot 3 to 5 3 shot groups. As long as they were under 2" I was happy. This was the best and it measured 1.125". Most groups were around 1.75". reflex264
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 8:37 PM
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That is a mighty fine 3-shot group. NOW, the big question is, why did you stop after 3 rounds - and why not is not an answer.
Great shooting from a good shooter - keep it up. Sometimes, my first three or four shots are so good that you know if you squeeze the next one off it'll be a flier. So, you stop at three! At least that's my excuse!
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 8:50 PM
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 8:55 PM
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Vance in AK.
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I used to do a lot of bowhunting with a traditional bow before my shoulders started going south & an old bot taught me to always shot 1 shot groups. He said the 1st shot is the only one that matters. I would only take one arrow to the yard to practice with. Shoot one shot, go get the arrow from the target, change positions, ranges. angels, etc & shot again.
With guns I have never been a great paper shooter so once I get a gun sighted in I usually go to steel plates & shoot from different practical field positions at various ranges for practice. I want to be able to hit that plate first shot each time.
Vance in AK.
Matthew 6:33 "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you."
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 9:09 PM
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Thats a great group reflex. Keep it up!
Do not take your greatness to the graveyard!!
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/10/2012 11:14 PM
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/11/2012 12:10 AM
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/11/2012 2:07 PM
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I should have included that this gun is scoped and this group was shot from the shooting bench with sand bags. Before my eyes went I used to manage 3" open sight groups with handguns at 100 yards. The gun I did this with is exceptional and anyone could shoot it well. The chambers all measure .452" and the bore is .452" as well. My brother had a .45 Blackhawk that had .451 to .454 chambers and a .450" bore. You couldn't make it shoot with anything. reflex264
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/15/2012 1:39 PM
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It’s purely a subjective practice, but I generally shoot 3-shot groups when it relates to determining the practical capability of any rifle or handgun.
It’s been my experience that if the shooter, the gun and the chosen load are doing what they’re supposed to do, the 3-shot group will form a simple triangulation pattern as displayed in reflex264’s example.
Since I don’t own any high dollar line-bored revolvers, it’s not terribly uncommon for me to have to resort to firing the three shots from just one chamber in order to achieve really good triangulation.
Only when my group does indeed form a fairly equal sided triangle, can I use the center of the triangulation to be my POA for sighting in purposes.
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/15/2012 1:46 PM
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I've never been a great group shooter. I might be on a roll, and here comes a flier -- my fault. But I really don't feel that a tight group tells the whole story. Since I primarily hunt with my revolvers, it is more important that I can get on my target with the first shot every time. This is a more realistic "test" in my opinion. I have had days where everything is clicking and falling into place and I am able to shoot decent 5-shot groups, but if I can get the first three touching, I feel good enough about it.
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/15/2012 5:12 PM
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That surely is a shooter...
Life member-NRA-SCI Member-HHI #2900-HHASA #067 Colt-Ruger-Freedom Arms-and S&W Collector Assoc.s "I have more guns then I need but not as many as I want" "Handgun hunters HAVE to be good"
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/15/2012 5:16 PM
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I've never been a great group shooter. I might be on a roll, and here comes a flier -- my fault. But I really don't feel that a tight group tells the whole story. Since I primarily hunt with my revolvers, it is more important that I can get on my target with the first shot every time. This is a more realistic "test" in my opinion. I have had days where everything is clicking and falling into place and I am able to shoot decent 5-shot groups, but if I can get the first three touching, I feel good enough about it. I agree completely, I use grouping from my Ransom rest to determine whether I've done my work right or not but even it's not perfect because I'm actuating the linkage which has a tendency to shift and therefore take unequal pressure from trigger pull to trigger pull. I also don't have a situation at this time where it can be mounted to a permanent, solid bench. The only way to even get that perfect would be to use an electric solenoid to actuate the trigger so human hands don't touch it at all. I've seen just as many, if not more good groups shot by accident than by skill. Ed Folmar who's probably one of the most accomplished handgun hunters I know doesn't even like to shoot paper, instead he shoots rocks at undetermined range. I think alot of us can get too wrapped up in group size, obviously you don't want a revolver that shoot a group closer to a shotgun pattern but truth be told if you were to try to shoot a group under the same conditions your under in the field you'd be lucky to keep it in a 12"x12" square at 25' after the first shot.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. John Wayne-The Shootist
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/16/2012 8:29 AM
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I really like 296.....good job
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Re: group from my .45 Ruger
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05/16/2012 1:16 PM
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I too am bad to set up a target and take one shot at it. I only do this after I know that gun is right though. That way I can blame it on the nut behind the trigger.....
"A quiet hit in the right place is better than a loud miss in the wrong place followed by 10 more shots on the run"
I was a handgun hunter, when handgun wasn't cool.....
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