Originally Posted By: Vance in AK.

By the way, I heard Elmer was a HUGE fan of NC Star's red dots :-)

That was FUNNY!!!!!!! Not much help with my choice, but that's hilarious! I read alot of good reviews on the fastfire, but they were mostly from rifle guys. They all say its a pretty tough sight. Does anybody know about the ultradot being water/fog proof? I have yet to find much info on it.