Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Hey James, don't make me beat you with my LBT -- LOL!!
It was great talking to you as always, James!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
[Re: Whitworth]
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01/26/2013 8:14 PM
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Whit, This noggin of mine has taken plenty of knocks and I don`t need a LBT added to the list...Have mercy...
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/27/2013 3:58 AM
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Look forward to the pic Whit. Sounds like a weird deal, don't know that I e ever seen that. That damn Murphy
I would like to add one little thing. Y'all were talking about the guaranteed kill thing earlier. Having taken a substantial amount of pigs in my lifetime, 98% of them in my younger days and always in the riverbottoms and swamps near my hometown in MS, I've personally found that some of my most challenging hunts were on a "guaranteed" preserve in the past few years while wanting to test new bullets or guns. I've left many times kicking horse turds as Sixshot would say and so have my buddies. So the guarantee is usually not for sure in a lot of those spots. I'm sure you could sit by a feeder or whatever and do well but slipping through the trees and bottoms looking can leave you hot miserable and happy all the same. Not all preserves are equal. Depending on terrain, weather etc, they can beat you down. I enjoy just getting together with buddies and having a good time. The pigs are just icing on the cake. You need to know one thing before you go to a place like that. The hunt is what YOU make of it in my opinion. Wild hogs are great. I've killed them with everything from 22 pistols to 22 rifles to bows, knives and our favorite big bores. Mainly, it was because it was what I had with me when I saw them. Memorable ones were with Glock 19 and glock 21. Back then, I was out a lot and had a lot of time to find them. Now days, time is a premium and very short so preserves are a good way to spend time with buddies and test new toys etc. for a beginner in this new venture of handgun hunting, I would say they would offer a chance to garner confidence in your weapon. Nothing like watching that first one buckle when a big slug finds its mark. All I'm saying in a very LONG way is don't poopoo them off. There is a lot you can learn from just going and having a good time. It's just pigs, not a record book moose or something
whatever you do, just have fun!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/27/2013 5:06 AM
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Glenn, I have lived in many parts of the south where the hog populations are prolific and have killed more than my share. Eventually most of the US will have a wild hog problem -- there are two kinds of places: Places with wild hogs and places that will have wild hogs! When I was an editor at Boar Hunter magazine, that's almost all I hunted year 'round. You are right, not all preserves are created equally. One of the toughest "hunts" I had was on a rather small preserve. The animals were under a lot of pressure and spooky as a result. Unlike most wild hogs, they were silent and just kind of showed up like deer. That said, I knew I would eventually catch up with them as there were physical boundaries prevent them from going too far. I love a challenge, but again, all preserves aren't created equally as you pointed out. For me, a preserve is actually better for my purposes as I have to test for editorial. But again, I really like challenges and sometimes you strike out as there are many factors affecting hog movement and when they aren't penned in, you may or may not have success. Just a fact of life and hunting.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
[Re: Whitworth]
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01/27/2013 3:29 PM
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No doubt about the places that have and WILL have. They will not let people shoot them here as of a few years ago. I don't know if they have changed that yet as I think most farmer will follow the 3S rule and just rid themselves of what they see but even that will only go so far. They are very prolific animals. Two of my favorite places to go with buddies are about 3-400 acres in size covered in trees or thick underbrush. One thing I do know about them is that if they don't want you to see them, then you won't Sometimes back home, you could hear them but just never see them. Grunting and popping jaws but no pigs, always was a pain in the butt but that was mainly when it was very windy and cold. The cool trips were when they'd bring out the dogs all suited up in Kevlar and you actually "catch" the pigs without killing them. Want to hear one grunt and squeal? They don't like being relocated. Biggest trouble in bringing out dogs was that you didn't want some yahoo with you that may pop your dog so they didn't get to go when the dogs were coming
I've said it before....I LOVE SHOOTING PIGS! Don't know why but as I've gotten older, the deer and such just almost make me feel bad to shoot but the Pigs, I dislike them so much do to the destruction that they used to do on the properties back home that I still hold a vengence for them and love to trip the trigger....HAHA
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/27/2013 3:34 PM
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BAck on the subject of adjustable rear sights. I have seen them damaged and or out of adjustment before. That is why the old timers preferred a fixed sighted handgun for personal defense. Adjustable sights have gotten better over time yet while rare damage can and does happen
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/30/2013 5:19 PM
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As promised, and sorry it took so long -- here is Seasons44's 629 rear sight:
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
[Re: Whitworth]
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01/30/2013 7:31 PM
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Dang... yeah that would suck to take it out of the case and see that on a hunt
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/30/2013 9:26 PM
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OK...now I see....thats why he used your Bisley to handgun his first animal. Damm shame when those rear sights when they break like that....
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/30/2013 9:52 PM
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OK...now I see....thats why he used your Bisley to handgun his first animal. Damm shame when those rear sights when they break like that.... His holster has the sights exposed and he obviously bumped into something.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
[Re: Whitworth]
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01/31/2013 12:41 AM
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Glenn, I have lived in many parts of the south where the hog populations are prolific and have killed more than my share. Eventually most of the US will have a wild hog problem -- there are two kinds of places: Places with wild hogs and places that will have wild hogs! When I was an editor at Boar Hunter magazine, that's almost all I hunted year 'round. You are right, not all preserves are created equally. One of the toughest "hunts" I had was on a rather small preserve. The animals were under a lot of pressure and spooky as a result. Unlike most wild hogs, they were silent and just kind of showed up like deer. That said, I knew I would eventually catch up with them as there were physical boundaries prevent them from going too far. I love a challenge, but again, all preserves aren't created equally as you pointed out. For me, a preserve is actually better for my purposes as I have to test for editorial. But again, I really like challenges and sometimes you strike out as there are many factors affecting hog movement and when they aren't penned in, you may or may not have success. Just a fact of life and hunting. I was wondering if feral hogs will ever make it to New England( Connecticut,Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine) ?
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 1:02 AM
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Probably -- they adapt really well!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 2:28 AM
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Glenn, I have lived in many parts of the south where the hog populations are prolific and have killed more than my share. Eventually most of the US will have a wild hog problem -- there are two kinds of places: Places with wild hogs and places that will have wild hogs! When I was an editor at Boar Hunter magazine, that's almost all I hunted year 'round. You are right, not all preserves are created equally. One of the toughest "hunts" I had was on a rather small preserve. The animals were under a lot of pressure and spooky as a result. Unlike most wild hogs, they were silent and just kind of showed up like deer. That said, I knew I would eventually catch up with them as there were physical boundaries prevent them from going too far. I love a challenge, but again, all preserves aren't created equally as you pointed out. For me, a preserve is actually better for my purposes as I have to test for editorial. But again, I really like challenges and sometimes you strike out as there are many factors affecting hog movement and when they aren't penned in, you may or may not have success. Just a fact of life and hunting. I was wondering if feral hogs will ever make it to New England( Connecticut,Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine) ? I think it was last year they had reports of feral pigs in south jersey and parts of western NY, so its only a matter of time
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 2:40 AM
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Are you sure it wasn't democrats that were sighted?
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 3:10 AM
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Are you sure it wasn't democrats that were sighted? That comment probably just offended the hogs.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Are you sure it wasn't democrats that were sighted? That comment probably just offended the hogs. Hahaha!!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 6:42 PM
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As promised, and sorry it took so long -- here is Seasons44's 629 rear sight: Inferior gun leather.. (I couldn't resist)
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 7:59 PM
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But you would be correct in my estimation.......poor design, definitely.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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01/31/2013 10:27 PM
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Hell, you are both RIGHT, Don't get use to hearing that...lol
I am working on fixing the problem of inferior gun leather
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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As promised, and sorry it took so long -- here is Seasons44's 629 rear sight: What a bummer. I had a scope break once in transit, lesson learned.
Rod, too.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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And you never expect to damage iron sights. Good thing we had backup guns -- lots of backup guns!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Haha. I know that feeling. Never hurts to have a few extras along. Seasons, have you looked at the replacement sights that Bowen sells for the smith? He makes the rough country for that gun and they are built a little thicker with opposing screws for windage. Once you set it, you pretty much act like its a fixed sight. They work well as long as you aren't jacking around with 10 different loads. Worth looking at if you haven't already. http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/parts_store/smith_&_wesson_rough_country_adjustable_rear_sights.html
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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That took a pretty good lick to do. Any thoughts on how it happened.Thats why I like to transport mine when possiable in a hard case.But s$#& happens thats why you carry backups.Sounds like you guys had a darn good time.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Junebug, it doesn't look like it happened in transport. I think it happened while in the holster probably when he was wearing it.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Just goes to show that Murphy is alive and well and still doing his thing. Some people would have let this sour them on the hunt, but the savy ones understsnd that s@#$ happens and make the best of it.Expect the best,prepare for the worst,deal with it when it happens, then go on. Still sounds like you guys had too much fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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We did -- we had a great time! Let me again reiterate that everyone saw hogs that could have been taken.
You're right, you need to be prepared for the worst!
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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Haha. I know that feeling. Never hurts to have a few extras along. Seasons, have you looked at the replacement sights that Bowen sells for the smith? He makes the rough country for that gun and they are built a little thicker with opposing screws for windage. Once you set it, you pretty much act like its a fixed sight. They work well as long as you aren't jacking around with 10 different loads. Worth looking at if you haven't already. http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/parts_store/smith_&_wesson_rough_country_adjustable_rear_sights.html Glenn, I have looked at the bowen sights, they are backordered for 3 to 4 weeks. For now I have a new blade on order. I will post up a photo of the holster so you guys can see.
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Re: Last Call for January Group Handgun Hunt
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This is the "inferior gun leather" [img] [/img]
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