i just picked up a rcbs powder dispencer and scale looked at pact at the lyman read the comments on the product on the midway page .the rcbs is a little costly but worth it !!!!! took 5min to setup ,loaded 200 rds for the 223 crow gun out of 200 rds i had to redo 2 becuse the scale said they were .2 grains over .a friend has the pact and has to wait 20 min to warm it up.in that time i had loaded over 120 rds ...