I was very lucky to take this small turkey with my 454 and that's enough turkey huntin for me, however, the guy you talk to here is Kral as he has handgunned quite a few of the birds and is one of the best..... My bird was behind a log about 40yds away and all that was exposed was his head and neck. Put the scope on 8x and got him in the neck. Hardest shot of my life....