Deer was longest at 97 yards. Bear was self defense range. I got some great expansion on deer, but I stepped on the gas pedal to the point of just a little room for safety. I backed off to the infamous 21gr of 2400 not the huge splash but steady controlled damage. The wound tracks were some of the most impressive I've seen in that caliber.

"If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence,try orderin' someone else's dog around" unknown cowboy