4895 was the powder I used just not enough of it, 3031 also gave me an excellent group but again around 1800 fps. Speed is estimated based on data. Appears several of the suggestions above still require about 2200 fps so I just need to ramp up the speed. Already ordered and received the Rem 150s and the Sierra 125s so will start there and do some jug, wet newspaper testing. Just more motivation to shoot more, ;). Thanks for the suggestions, taking notes and may try a few of them before next season.