First 45-70 deer
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11/07/2016 11:12 PM
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karl
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So I picked up a 45-70 Encore last spring and spend the summer and early fall getting tuning it up and developing a load. I took it out last weekend for opening deer season here in Minnesota and connected with a nice doe at ~ 120 yards with a double lung shot. It was a bit farther back then I wanted, but worked well. She only traveled ~ 40 yards before piling up. Since getting the pistol (stock), I installed a rubber grip and added a muzzle break (total length 15", ~13.5 barrel length) which tamed the recoil. I added a new forend, swapped trigger springs (2 lb pull, down from 4) and polished some surfaces. It is launching 300gn Barnes TTXS at ~ 1800 fps and groups ~2 inches at 100 yards. The deer and pistol The bullet passed between ribs on the way in. It ripped up the lungs and the top of the liver before exiting closer to the offside shoulder. The exit wound was ~ 1.5" in diameter. Based on the amount of blood, I probably hit some big vessels. Below is a pic of the entrance side lung showing the results of the bullet pedals opening as they entered the lung. All in all, happy with the gun and load performance.
Last edited by karl; 11/07/2016 11:13 PM.
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/07/2016 11:32 PM
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Hoggin
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the 45/70 is almost enough gun
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/07/2016 11:39 PM
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that barnes is just wicked. nice shooting.
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/08/2016 12:05 AM
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Good lookin heavy recoiler. Congrats!
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11/08/2016 12:33 AM
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Mark Hampton
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Congrats on your 45-70 deer!
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11/08/2016 12:49 AM
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11/08/2016 1:14 AM
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11/08/2016 1:31 AM
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Fantastic Karl - That 45/70 is a beast! Congrats.
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11/08/2016 1:40 AM
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Great start for the season! Congrats!
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11/08/2016 2:03 AM
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11/08/2016 2:04 AM
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Congrats. Great shot with a good looking Encore. I love the 45/70, but mine are in rifles.
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11/08/2016 2:20 AM
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11/08/2016 5:56 AM
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I have a 12 in CONTENDER and they are wicked on deer.
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11/08/2016 6:20 AM
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11/08/2016 11:20 AM
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Great job!!! Years ago I shot a doe with my 45-70 contender. Upon impact the deer took 2 steps sideways and fell. The load was a 400 gr Speer soft point with enough H 322 to get 1450 fps from a 14" barrel. Kinda like hitting her with a bowling ball.
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11/08/2016 3:09 PM
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Congrats and good shooting.
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11/08/2016 3:13 PM
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11/08/2016 4:54 PM
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Great job and a winning combination of gun , load and shooter.
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/08/2016 6:55 PM
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sure as hell worked fine......
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11/08/2016 9:43 PM
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Good shooting. I have always wanted to try that bullet in my SSK 45-70 Contender. I shoot the 300 grn JHP and it has never let me down. I think I have taken 3 doe whitetails with it.
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11/09/2016 1:18 AM
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Bob Roach
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Your hard work payed off. Great job, and a nice shot.
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11/09/2016 3:07 AM
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High Tide
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That is awesome. Glad that brake works well for you, because that 45-70 can kick like a mule. As another poster referred to...those Barnes are bad boys! CONGRATS!
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/09/2016 2:29 PM
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karl
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Thanks All! I'm very happy with the pistol and how it works. The package works well. Now to arrange a moose hunting trip with some Alaskan family.
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/09/2016 3:28 PM
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Looks like you brought "enough" gun, Karl ;-)
Good on ya!
Rod, too.
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11/09/2016 3:51 PM
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11/09/2016 8:23 PM
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11/09/2016 9:55 PM
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Congratulations!! The 45-70 is one of my favorite calibers.
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Re: First 45-70 deer
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11/13/2016 4:26 AM
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Nice deer. The 45-70 is an awesome handgun round. A real hammer!
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