Whitworth thanks for your input. I have your books so I knew you had extensive experience with this platform. I was hoping you would chime in on the discussion. It maybe a moot point because I have already placed my order. I still would like to here about the weak points that you found. In all honesty most of my handloads will not be full tilt and many will be 45 +p, but it would be nice to have the option of the factory level loads if the need arises. Feel free to private message me if you prefer. Thanks