Bigbrowndog, Thanks for the tip. I really didn?t see the donut, but.....the groups open up quickly. I was blaming the rifling, but was satisfied for my usage. What is your effective range.....where the pattern is still dense enough for a reliable kill? memtb

You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel

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