I was looking at the the 454 BFR before I bought my FA 454, and I thought the short cylinder ones seemed good, but I decided on saving some more money and getting what I really wanted initially, they seem like quality guns, and one in the 475/480 is probably pretty sweet, I dont really care for the long cylinder one because they make my X-Frame 500 feel light, but all in all I think theyre built to last and good quality.