The 30-30 has been sold short for a long time, especially in a handgun length barrel. The Herrets were designed to be more efficent in a handgun, always thought that kind of statment was crazy. I threw efficency out the door the first time I ever shot a "rifle" round in a handgun, never looked back.

Still a lot of garbage out there that doesn't make sense to me?
The 30 Herret can do every thing the 30-30 can. The 357 max can do everything that a 35 rem can? Both of the little ones may do as well with light to medium weight bullets. Go to anything over the norm and lets see.