Guys thanks for all the help I'm going out after Christmas to practice some more picked up 100 more 240gr of the cheaper win ammo I'm also going to pick up some more of the Hornady 240gr and some of the 300gr cast only thing we have is 300gr made by BlackHills anybody have any experience with their ammo. Sounds like I need more range time to get used to the gun also I tried to use the same grip the whole time and thought I was keeping the same grip pressure I'll pay closer atention next time.