well, I will put some pictures on the bragging board. I can't figure out how to put them on this thread. I think I must be a little wiggly today. My 50 yard shot was high and my 100 yard shot was left ... I guess that how it goes some days. The expansion on the rounds recovered from the phone books was excesive. The 50 yard skug pretty much came apart. the 100 yard slug almost did. I guess dry phone books are too dense for this test.