Thanks guys. I'm crazy about the 30-30, I know there are "better" cartridges out there, or so they say.... I intend to use this for whitetails, and my feeling is that I'd be better off w/the 14" for overall performance. I would think 300fps is pretty substantial in the performance range were talking here(echoing s4s4u). Anybody with more experience please chime in, I'm soaking it up.