I use a shooting stick when I'm walking to my treestands or still hunting.My furthest kills off hand have been 50-60 yards on deer, coyotees.With a rest, I use red dots on my RH-44MAG.and SRH .454 casull.With those revolvers I can shoot 3-4 inch groups at 150 yards.When in the woods though, I limit my shots to around 50 yards because of the twigs and other types of brush that you don't see, that just kind of jump in the way when ya shoot.