know why the encore was not grouping
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This was a readhead branded mount that was made by durasight. Broke right at the unused slot. Anyone have any idea how to make these not flex ahead of the chamber area.
Tyler
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/24/2011 2:18 PM
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I have never had that probelm with the steel MGM base or the Leupold base
That thing must have had some major flex
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/24/2011 2:22 PM
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yeah. might bed the next on full length of the base.
Tyler
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/24/2011 3:25 PM
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I too have used the MGM base and have had no problem. The SSK TSOB base is very strong as well.
Joe W
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10/24/2011 4:17 PM
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I just ordered a EGW. have good luck with the others I own. hope the scope is ok. that must be taking a good shock as well
Tyler
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/24/2011 8:40 PM
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Unsupported bases will flex and some flex a lot. Brittle metal will break, soft will bend. Even the heavy bases on the BFR will flex enough to mark the barrel.
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10/24/2011 11:56 PM
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/24/2011 11:59 PM
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Seems like a strange place for a slot.
I would bring this to the attention of the maker.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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10/25/2011 2:24 AM
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The Weaver Al bases are about 3 times that thick
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/25/2011 12:05 PM
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Ernie its a factory 7mm-08. 120 nosler BT at around 2600. does not seem like it should be that punishing of a load.
Tyler
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/25/2011 1:48 PM
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would useing more rings help??
however, this shouldnt happen on a 708...
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10/25/2011 5:27 PM
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Curious how long the barrel is? I had a factory 7mm-08 with a 10" barrel that recoiled worse (and the recoil was quite abrupt comparatively) with 160gr. Accubonds than my 30-06, .500 S+W, or .470NE Encore barrels...
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10/25/2011 9:52 PM
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Tyler
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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10/30/2011 12:36 AM
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TYLER,
Mike Bellm has looked into this issue and has experimented by drilling and tapping the mount near the forward end and seating a screw to abutt ( contact ) the barrel. The premise is that this will stabilize the mount and reduce the flex of the mount upon recoil. I haven't tried it; however, it seems like a reasonable and inexpensive approach.
Doc
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10/30/2011 1:01 AM
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I was thinking of that myself. we do the same thing to cantilever bases on shotgun barrels also. thanks
Tyler
Finger Lakes NY
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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11/01/2011 2:29 AM
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You would think someone would have designed a scope base contoured to fill up the gap between the base and barrel by now.
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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11/01/2011 3:11 AM
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You would think someone would have designed a scope base contoured to fill up the gap between the base and barrel by now. The scope base manufacturers probably wonder why T/C doesn't just extend the chamber area an inch further forward.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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11/01/2011 6:43 AM
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Actually...wondered that one myself also.
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Re: know why the encore was not grouping
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11/01/2011 9:46 PM
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You would think someone would have designed a scope base contoured to fill up the gap between the base and barrel by now. MGM's new base is contoured to the barrel taper--if you skim coated it with Dynamold it would be a perfect metal on meatl fit
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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