Bow hunter kills charging wolf with 44 mag

In Idaho, she shot 3 times and wolf was stopped 10 ft away.

What a honker!!!!

MAN!!!!! They are huge!!!

That's my kind of girl- good lookin' and shoots good.

buggers can get up to 130-140#s. The Libtards and their judges, say we need to have'm in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, etc.. Paid the Canadians 1.5 million per breeding pair, to get them back. The Canucks laughed ALL the way to the bank!

Doc

Wolves.... SMOKE A PACK A DAY!!!

If that doesn't get your heart pumping I dont know what will!

Man that is one stud horse of a wolf,I had no idea they got that big.

A pistol beats a stick and string every time. I don't think it was comming in to make friends. The lady throws a nice, "Welcome to the neighborhood party".

Is there a story on it somewhere? I've never heard of a charging (individual) wolf.

What a rug that sucker would make!
Wow

Yea, I've come face to face with a few, and some bigs ones, and they wanted nothing to do with me. Most will sit tight and not move until they have no choice, and then they run like hell. I nearly stepped on one that had been aware of me for a long time, as it was lying about 10 yards from the tree I had been posted in all AM. When I got down and started a still hunt I got too close and the reed grass came alive like the movie Tremors as that dog took off, and that was a big Timber.

Introducing the wolves back into the United States was a bit mistake. Now the elk hunters are suffering because of this.

nature is a puzzle. when i was young, we would limit out on pheasants, every day for the first two weeks of the month long season. On weekends we would be limited out by noon- that was four to six of us hunting behind setters and pointers. then the birds disappeared, and i know you think that it was because we were game hogs, but one of our party was the head biollogist from the DEC. He claimed that we weren't the deciding factor in the demise of the pheasant population. claimed it was due to changing agricultural practices and loss of habitat. I trapped and hunted foxes all thru high school and college, during that time I chased coon dogs all night long and never once saw or heard a coyote, in 1978 the coyotes moved into Livingston county. We killed eight that first year, and knew of maybe a dozen others that were caught or killed by the predator callers, they have been around ever since they are great sport, but we can't get rid of them. When you see what a forty pound coyote does to deer and sheep, it's not hard to imagine what kind of damage a 100+ pound canine killing machine can do. Makes me wonder what were they thinkin about when they brought them back and then thought they were going to protect them.

gotta love the govt. here in Oregon they stopped use of dog for bears and cats as well as baiting for bears. Within a couple years the writing was on the wall and now the wolves. I just read a new report stating that we have two new packs in OR. A cat will kill one elk a week or around 3 deer. We have been dessimated by predation and poor game management. In oregon we can't use deadly force on a wolf until it actually has physically attacked someone. I guess they figure people would just shoot them and say they felt threatened. Personally I figure there is a reason wolves and grizzly's were wiped out to begin with, primarily the fact that they don't play well with people or livestock. It shouldn't be too much longer before the grizzly's are here too.

For a while in the Empire state they allowed us to use dogs on bear - in the Adirondack Park and if your pack was registered with the DEC and certified clean- dogs had to be proofed by the ECO- I knew a handler that had a returning client(NYC Dr.) that brought more clients from the Big Apple to catch and release - they bought liscences and they paid trophy fees to take pictures and they were happy to follow the dogs and pay their money , but the folks in charge decided that chasing bears with dogs wasn't sporting so that ended that.

the problme we had here was they put it up to a vote and took it out of the hands of ODFW. Unfortunately just like in political elections the geographical majority of the state is controlled by lefties in Portland and they are spreading like cancer. They got p/od because fish and game instituted a new program effective next year to issue limited permits to predator control specialist that use dogs. I can tell you from talking to some ranchers that if a wolff gets after their stock and it dosn't have a collar it will dissapear. I met a guy from USDA that hunts for a living. He finds a local person with dogs and kills cougars and nuisance bears all around the state. If an area starts taking losses from cats he gets moved into that area and kills cats on ranch properties until the problem is gone, how would you like to have his job. He probably makes 6 figures with federal benefits and pension and gets to go hunting all the time on govt's dime. After I go to know him I asked him if he thought I could go along sometime and he asked if I had access to hounds which I don't so he told me he figured he had killed plenty so he would give me a call but we moved within a few weeks of that conversation.

In Nebraska they introduced mountain lions back into the ecosystem to help control the whitetail deer problem. What a pain. You can only kill a cat if you or your livestock are in danger.

As for wolves, a large male with a radio collar was killed by a group of coyote hunters in central Nebraska about 4 years ago. The wolf had migrated from upper Wisconson/Minnesota border. Man did they sock it to those guys with fines.

Why would a wolf wander that far when it has plenty of food in the forest?

Once again our wonderful game and parks is secretly trying to re-establish the prairie wolf as a means to control the whitetail deer heards.

in Illinois where the DNR put the grey wolf in our wonderful state,the hunting guide says they won't bother humans.....now that your done laughing,no wonder our country is in a mess with knuckleheads like this running things!!

You go girl! That is one huge animal. Sure would like to hear the story as it's unusual for a lone wolf to take on a human. Good shootin'!

One of the prices we pay for FREEDOM; politicions voting on things they know nothing about. If they did know something about it they would still vote along party lines.

The three "P,s" of politics;

Personal career
Party
People

In that order.

That pix was posted on another site by the son of the lady in the pix. She is a hunting guide and has seen many wolves and never before had one come at her. Tough gal and a fine cool headed marksman. Good on her. One GOOD wolf

I really wish I could agree with you on freedom. I personally don't believe we have many freedoms in this country. Yeah we have many favorable gun laws but everything else is pretty oppressed.

As for the wolves, remember they are a part of nature. We killed them off and it is our duty as hunters, conservationists, to restore them, and keep them in check. I get so angry when I hear hunters wishing for the eradication of any NATIVE species. There's what, less than 3000 wolves in the lower 48? How much damage can they really be doing? If I remember correctly there have been 5 people killed in the US from wolves in the past 100 years, with 3 of them being from pet wolves. The other 2 are questionable.

The one we had in Alaska last year where a 32 yr old teacher was killed on the edge of her village wasn't questionable at all...
While there may only be 5 deaths in the last 100 yrs (I have no clue if that's a valid #) there have been FAR more attacks
As to how much damage 3000 wolves can really do, you would be amazed. Remember, their range is fairly small. The elk herds in Montana & much of Idaho are flat being decimated.

I'm sorry, I just can't believe in reintroducing wolves back into a state that once was prairie but is now one giant corn field. Wolves have no place in the midwest.

Ask the outfitters of Montana, Idaho, and other states that have the wolf back if they aren't loosing money all in the name of conservation.

Far more attacks? There have been about 2 dozen in the last century according to this article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35913715/ns/...e/#.TozMEpsr2so

I would be willing to be there have been that many deer attacks, or moose attacks, or black bear attacks, or hog attacks. Does that mean we should eradicate them too? Well maybe we should eradicate the hogs.

And I really don't care if an outfitter looses money because of conservation. With out the same sort of conservation efforts they would be making no money (because there would be no elk to hunt). We shouldn't only be concerned with protecting the animals that we go and kill for trophies. And please don't even pretend like any of you only hunt for sustenance, we all go after the big ones.

Don't mean to sound hostile, this is just a subject that really irks me.

As for the woman killed in Alaska the last I heard they were not sure if wolves killed her or a bear and wolves scavenged the body.

I don't think that most want eradication of wolves, but they sure don't want a new problem that they haven't had for a century or more. I know that when local wolf pop's are up, our deer herd gets hammered here in NW MN. We don't want eradication, but we want to be able to control the "problem" as we see fit.

I think you might want to look to sources other than MSNBC for this type of info. They aren't exactly hunter friendly.

As to the teacher in AK (where I live), there was never even a whisper that it might have been a bear here in any credible report (NO report that I ever saw or heard & believe me it was big news & I followed it), especially since it happened about 2 months before the bears even start thinking about coming out of their dens.
I think you need a new news source.

By the way, I am NOT in favor of killing every wolf, just sound managment. I don't think they should have spent so much time & money to bring them back to the Rockies. HUGE waste of recources, & since the ecosystem has changed since their #s were this high in the past,a waste with tragic results.

On the good side, I believe trapping & hunting season on wolves just opened in Idaho! Hope fur prices are up this year!

Sounds like someone looking for a fight --- Troll?

We can all be pretty emphatic about our opinions at times I guess... Well everyone but me

Think yer on to something. New guy, first 2 posts. Maybe a treehugger with "wolf" on the keyword speeddial.

So because I have only been a member for 4 months and this is my first post I am looking for a fight?

Hunters have put in a big effort to build up there conservationist image instead of the ever so popular brutal killers painted by many extremists. Am I a treehugger? Maybe. Am I a hunter? Yes, and I like to protect the image that hunters should have, the conservationist.

These animals were here for a long time before we got here. When humans arrived in north America there was still plenty of opportunity to hunt what ever big game animal you wanted, the wolves did not wipe out the big game populations.

I am not saying we should put our life on the line to saves the wolves, I just don't agree with killing them all. If I ever end up on a hunting trip in Alaska I would love to take one, but that is very different than killing them all.

And I am not accusing any of you of wanting to extinguish them, it's just a theme I have seen played out on the web many times that really bothers me.

I don't think anyone here suggested that we do so.

I don't subscribe to the "the only good wolf is a dead wolf" theory. I don't think most here do, but there has been TERRIBLE managment in the reintro of wolves.
I was talking to a friend today who still lives in my old Montana stomping grounds. Asked if if he got his elk (bow season starts 1st of Sept). He said he hadn't bothered. Scouting the areas we used to see tons of elk in he saw NO elk, very few elk tracks, & LOTS of wolf tracks & scat. Very common thread down there.
And don't forget than man is part of the enviromental equasion. Has been since the Garden of Eden. We DO factor in & are supposed to.

I think some folks guess "troll" because these are your 1st 2 posts. Not saying you are a troll just that it is troll like behavior.

How about an introduction?
I'd love to hear where you are live, what you hunt, what you shoot, etc!

I look at it this way, the wolves and grizzly's were wiped out for a reason in the lower 48. They don't play well with livestock and people not to mention the damage they do to the elk and deer herds. Back before the white man things balanced themselves but now that we have moved in and taken over the habitat there is no place for wolves or grizzly's in the lower 48 and the cats need to be thinned out. Unfortunately people screwed up the natural order of things so either the critters need to go or the people do. I can't imagine anyone that would defend the re establishment of these animals has ever lived in or spent time around livestock ranches. These animals besides being a general threat and nuisance can also destroy a small rancher in a hurry. You start talking about the poor wolves in cattle country and your liable to get lynched.

Claytonfaulkner sounds like a BUNNY HUGGIN Democrat; or just watches too much Disney stuff.

Joe W

Joe, glad you could express your opinion on the subject at hand (wolves) with style, grace, & good science or personal observation. A lot of people just turn to insults & name calling when they really don't have anything of value to say but just have to say something.

I will trap wolves, I will hunt wolves, etc & still think it was a HUGE mistake to go to the expence of reintroducing them, but I don't want them erradicated in any of their natural range. Without mans intervention there would have always been the ellusive few(as it should be in my opinion). I saw one in Oregon when I lived there & was logging 30 yrs ago. They were around but rare & that gave them their Mystique (sp?).

If any animal charges me . its getting something in return.
I may not hit it, but its going to get dirt, powder, flames or cut.
Not going down without a fight.
That buggers big
I would have had to change my shorts before the photo op.

Most definitely!!

When did human life become cheaper than that of an animal? Human aggressive animals should never be tolerated. If they are allowed to live, they are allowed to harm again and likely will. Problem animals should be dealt with in this manner. No one here is suggesting extinguishing the species, but I think the reintroduction of these animals has been ill thought out, and based more on emotion than science as wolves are doing lots of damage. JMHO.

This is just simple math and very sad... Even a half starved wolf will eat every three days, that is 122 dead elk per year...for 3000 wolves this equates to 366,000 (That is three hundred,sixty-six thousand) dead big game animals per year minimum!!!! Anyone that says they don't kill for fun must not have a dog or cat. (ever see what a grizzly will do to a flock of sheep...they will kill hundreds all at once, just cause it is "just so dam much fun"..LOL)

Give me a break!!! This is the begining of the end to all hunting and woodland freedoms as we know it.

The worst part is that these HUGE Tundra wolves are not the same species that once roamed the western mountains.

The native elk were all gone (miners and western expansion saw to that). The elk living here now were reintroduced by our grandfathers and their HUNTER DOLLARS so that we could have something to hunt. They do not belong to the wolves, they were bought and paid for by the HUNTERS....NO ONE Else!

Montana puts a $8000 restitution value on an elk... that means wolves are taking $2,928,000,000 dollars worth of OUR elk every year!

The POO-Bah may know science but not so good at math. I've lived around wolves most of my life;{I'm 58 tears old}. They are stone cold killers; not just for food either. Running, howling killing machines. They have a place in nature; about six feet under ground.

Joe W

I agree with Vance - have never heard of a charging wolf. This story kinda reminds me of a friend on a deer hunt a few years back that returned with a little yearling. When we asked why he shot such a little deer, his response was that "It attacked me." Always a good excuse. Unless she has reliable witnesses I would be a little concerned that USF&W would consider prosecution.

I don't have nay problem with the reintroduction in the Yellowstone ecosystem. That said, the reintroduction has been allowed to get out of hand. If they had stayed with the original recovery goals, it would have been fine. They are probably at 5 times those numbers now.

Wolf populations do not work on a balance of nature basis. Since they target the weak, they kill not only the old but also the young. When wolf populations increase as a result of high ungulate populatons, they force the prey into a predator pit. The herd will be relatively strong for a number of years, but the almost total predation on the young results in very low recruitment. Then the game population ages out of their reporductive prime. Since there are no young to replace them, they become the weak and the prey, and the population falls off a cliff. This happens with caribou regularly in Alaska in the absence of predator control. It will happen in the northern Rockies if they don't allow the hunters and trappers to keep the number in check.

I thought wolves hunted in packs? I did not realize that each and every wolf in a pack, including the pups, killed there own elk, every 3 days. You're assumptions are flawed.

Hunters do not own game animals, especially if they don't own the land where the game animal is. And I hear there's a few people out there that hunt elk on public land.

I am through with this argument. If you are actually concerned for the future of hunting then you will do you best to work on the image of hunters. A lot of effort went into building the image we currently have, and reversing that hard work will not do much for our future.

This may well be true, but I do not understand what this has to do with the discussion at hand.

Just remember GOD put man on earth to rule over all animals.

If we want the quality of hunting to improve man must regulate how many of the lesser animals die each year to keep the system in balance.

The money lost by states issuing less permits, because there are less elk and deer can be crippling. The money from outdoormen is what keeps wild life in balance.

Yeah Clayton, I'll tell you I DO hunt only for food. I couldn't care less about "getting the big one" as you call it. Ask anyone who hunts with me, I take the FIRST LEGAL one that I come across. My tag is ALWAYS an either sex tag just for that reason! If a cow or doe is the first to present a shot, I'll GLADLY take it. I don't go after trophy elk or deer, I go after food, and take the first clean shot that is presented to me, no matter the sex.

There are more that think like me than ya think, so don't make such a quick statement that we are all after the big one. Yeah, if a "big one" is the first legal one I see, I'll gladly take it, but I'm not ABOUT to pass the first legal one I see in hopes of finding a big one. I MUCH prefer the food in the frreezer than a rack on the wall. And yes, I too am one that thinks introducing wolves was a HUGE mistake. Stupid politicians...

Your statement got to me Clayton, and to me and my family, that was over the line.

The people DO own the animals they hunt; private or public land. This is not Europe, the land owners do not own the wildlife; it belongs to all of us.

Joe W

Clayton, I too hunt for food, as my screen name implies I love elk hunting and I've killed a bunch and the biggest one I've killed was a 2 1/2 yr old 5x6. When I mule deer hunt I can shoot spike or bigger so I do have a self imposed limit of forked horn or better but I've never killed anything bigger than small to avg 4x4's. Blacktails are the same thing, my wife has killed three bucks bigger than anything I've killed and all between 5/8th's and 4" of making the net book minimum and the biggest blacktail I've killed was 3x2 and I've hunted them for 30yrs. I'll shoot forkies all day long, they also generally taste better. 90% of the meat my family has eaten over the past 12 months has been elk and it's that way every year the tags get filled. I always tell myself when I draw my mulie tag that I'll hold for a big one but the meat hunter in me always takes over since that is the way I was taught to hunt. I could have shot two of the three trophy blacktails my wife shot as well as the 26" wide mulie forked horn but I get more of kick out watching her kill animals bigger than some hunters ever get, especially when it comes to blacktails. I've shot two trophy animals and they were both butchered. I paid to hunt an exotic ranch and took a 69" Aisian buffalo which was still 6" short for the SCI books and I shot a Gold Medal hog that weighed between 700 and 800lbs but I wouldn't pay the fee to have him entered.

Anyone that has lived around and especially worked cattle operations want these predators reintroduced and that goes for any livestock. I have a side job destroying predators at chicken ranch which includes killing red tailed hawks which are my favorite bird but I'll still do it to protect the livestock. I've shot at domestic dogs harrassing cattle when I worked and lived on a cattle spread. The egg ranch is now having problems with what the believe to be a feral dog and he's next. I've killed feral cats for coming in my cat door and eating my cat's food. There is a place for these animals but it isn't around people. Like I said if you remove the people nature will restore it's natural order but that isn't going to happen so we have to manage and regulate the numbers. I just killed my second porcupine in a week while deer hunting because they kill trees and the forest service says they need to be thinned out. It was just a dozen or so years ago they were protected here. I have nothing against porkies but they are destructive, hell I even think they are kind of cute little buggers but if you've ever seen and evergreen forest with a porcupine infestation you'd understand why it's necessary.

Here in Oregon you can already only kill one deer unless you draw an anterless tag. In the west side of cascades to the coast the success rate is already only 12% and elk is 8%, fortunately my numbers are much higher even since becoming disabled. Part of the problem is predation since they stopped the use of dogs for cougar and bear. I can't imagine what will happen when the wolves get over here. They have already dropped most controlled hunts to half the number of tags they used to have for mule deer because their numbers are dropping across the entire west, what kind of affect do you think the wolves are having on that problem. You mentioned sarcastically about the young the wolves, well that does actually make the problem worse because the mother and pack then have to kill that much more to sustain the young which unlike most animals they come into heat multiple times a year and can have multiple litters causing the population to grow exponentially. Not to mention as mentioned before this breed of wolf is much larger than the original breed that was here.

As far as a threat to humans, there are next to no records of human kills but that is believe to be because most attacks have taken place in areas where the people were presumed lost and dead and no cause of death could ever be determined. There are howeved many recorded human deaths from coyotes and they are much smaller and less agressive unless they are hungry.

I just can't see how any true hunter that spends his time hunting on their own on public land or anyone that has a clue about livestock could think this is a good thing. I've lived primarily in three counties in Oregon and in every county there have been horses killed by cougars, if a 100-150 lb cat can take down a 1000-1500lb horse which makes the horse 10x the size of the cat think about what a pack of wolves could do the horses. I hadn't even mentioned house pets to this point, I've lost a cat to coyotes where I live now and I've known dozens of people in CA and OR that have lost livestock and pets of all kinds to coyotes and cats.

Personally, I have no love whatsoever for the wolf.
Once it becomes legal to hunt them here (if it does), I intend to take one, and more if I can.

This is what came in the email I got. I do not know her or her son. Happened not far from where I live. The problem is way worse than what the media is saying. It is a slaughter out here. The deer and elk are dead by the thousands. They are aggresive towards people. We are hearing many stories about it from the locals but you will not hear about it in the media. Enough BS already.

Email,
This email should be read by anyone who hunts, camps, or spends any
amount of time in the woods in northern Idaho. Last night I received a
phone call from my mother who lives in Headquarters. She informed me
that on Sunday while bow hunting she was attacked by a wolf. A few of
you know that she is not your typical mother or grandmother. She has
worked as a professional hunting guide for many years, so she has spent
many hours in the woods. She has seen wolfs on many occasions and this
is the first time one came at her. She said as soon as the wolf saw her
it charged.She was able to drop her bow, draw her 44 mag out of its
holster, and put 1 round in the wolfs head at a range of a few feet.
Please let any of your family and friends know of this so they can take
whatever precautions needed while out in the woods. If any of you have
any questions please feel free to call me. Thank's