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Handgun, or no?

Posted By: s4s4u

Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:09 PM

I wish to kill a turkey with a handgun but the powers that be in MN don't seem to understand. So, if I killed one with one of these, holding nothing but the grip, could I call it a "handgun" turkey? Bipod?

I'm gonna have to do some wrist excersizes ;-) What say ye?
Posted By: wapitirod

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:11 PM

works for me
\:\)
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:32 PM

Works for me as well -- LOL!
Posted By: archr610

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 9:54 PM

Works for me also. Pennsylvania states shotgun is legal for spring turkey. No where does it say it had to be fired from the shoulder.
You've got me thinking Rod, cause I have on of those.

Jeff
Posted By: BBwheelgunner

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:07 PM

go get em!
Posted By: 240

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:28 PM

If you do this, be sure to film it:) I bet those turkey loads are stiff!
Posted By: RUG1

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:46 PM

Hmmm. Food for thought...
Posted By: rlb

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 11:44 PM

Good idea. No bipod though. It should be rested on the knee and fired with the stiffest 3 1/2" load you can find.
;\)
Posted By: sc1911cwp

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:26 AM

I would use two hands unless you want to end up on You Tube.
Posted By: archr610

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:39 AM

 Originally Posted By: rlb
Good idea. No bipod though. It should be rested on the knee and fired with the stiffest 3 1/2" load you can find.
;\)


Whats a 3 1/2" load. LOL. Mossberg 500 doesn't eat 3 1/2"
I have fired 3" buckshot off the hip with this gun and didn't find it any fun.
I'm thinking: close up (no choke on mine), high brass #6's or standard turkey load, gun rested over a log or stump with sandbag or pack ala Contender style. Warm up the fryer.
Posted By: racksmasher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:51 AM

Turkey from the hip, still tastes the same.
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 2:26 AM

OK, I'll be the Grinch That Stole Christmas. IMHO, hell no that's not a handgun. Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence... plus, IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less. Whatsmore, here in Alabama and likely most other states, the man in green and sometimes referred to as the Boogeyman must state that it "works for him" which in this case ain't gonna happen. Wish you well, tho!
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 5:14 AM

 Quote:
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...


Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
Posted By: Gregg Richter

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 7:29 AM

Where are u, Ernie...let's see you weigh in on this.
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:30 AM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Quote:
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...


Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?


I guess the length is what's goona get ya.
Posted By: archr610

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:33 AM

 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
legal handgun barrels are 16" and less. Whatsmore,


Where's my hacksaw ?

Jeff
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:46 AM

 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less.


My definition is 6" or less.....LOL!
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:07 AM

 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less.


My definition is 6" or less.....LOL!


I knew you would arrive, Whit
;\)
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:27 AM

Hey, gotta stay consistent! LOL!
Posted By: Boot

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:02 PM

Would this allow you to be legal? In ga, turkey hunters are limited by ammo, not platform.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-taurus-raging-judge-28-gauge-revolver/
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 1:16 PM

 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Quote:
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...


Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?


I guess the length is what's goona get ya.


The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 2:53 PM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Quote:
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...


Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?


I guess the length is what's goona get ya.


The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)


Illinois and Iowa 16"+ is a big no-no, but I agree with you--what's a few inches as long as you don't get caught!?
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 3:31 PM

Get caught doing what? There is nothing illegal about using a Mossberg 500 for turkey. The discussion was whether the folks on this board would consider it a handgun kill if used as a handgun, not about the legality of an 18" barreled handgun.
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 3:40 PM

The pistol grip makes it a pistol.
Posted By: jamesfromjersey

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 5:21 PM

no....
Posted By: SChunter

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 5:47 PM

Hmmm. NC laws don't allow pistols for turkey, regardless of barrel length.

But...in the same fashion that gun owners can take a Savage or Remington rifle, put a rear grip stock on it and leave the barrel length long enough to clear a total overall length of 26", they're good with a "rifle" action in a pistol platform.

Heck my rear grip Weatherby isn't called a pistol by the manufacturer, but rather a CFP (Compact Firing Platform).

Really gray area - just depends on how your warden WANTS to interpret the local regs.

I'm gonna stick with my Benelli (full stock).
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 6:15 PM

I think he is simply trying to pass the shotgun off as a handgun to be able to post his results on this site. Am I correct?
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 6:28 PM

 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
I think he is simply trying to pass the shotgun off as a handgun to be able to post his results on this site. Am I correct?


Ding, ding, ding...

We have a winner!
Posted By: jamesfromjersey

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 6:41 PM

Wop de do..............
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:08 PM

 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
Wop de do..............


;\)
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:33 PM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
Get caught doing what? There is nothing illegal about using a Mossberg 500 for turkey. The discussion was whether the folks on this board would consider it a handgun kill if used as a handgun, not about the legality of an 18" barreled handgun.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave (G)
Posted By: KRal

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:41 PM

I would suggest one of these......



"I" call it a handgun, but by NFA's definition it's a shotgun with a pistol grip. Either way, I get to turkey hunt with a 20ga. "handgun".
\:D
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:42 PM

Do they do a 12?
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:48 PM

 Originally Posted By: KRal
I would suggest one of these......



"I" call it a handgun, but by NFA's definition it's a shotgun with a pistol grip. Either way, I get to turkey hunt with a 20ga. "handgun".
\:D

Nice sight!
Posted By: KRal

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:05 PM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
Do they do a 12?


Yes, but I wouldn't want to shoot one. I also have the 12ga. 24" barrel that I use to use (with shoulder stock). It's the worst gun I've ever fired (recoil), and I've owned three M835 3.5".
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 1:13 AM

We can use 20 gauge now so I might have to look into that prospect.

How long of a tube there Kim?
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 2:30 AM

For some reason I feel we are dealing with an ego. Don't know why??? At least that's what my friends tell me about my cannons (G)
Posted By: Gregg Richter

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 6:48 AM

 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Originally Posted By: kingfisher
 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Quote:
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...


Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?


I guess the length is what's goona get ya.


The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)


Illinois and Iowa 16"+ is a big no-no, but I agree with you--what's a few inches as long as you don't get caught!?


Huh?

Sorry but ya lost me on that one.

Posted By: KRal

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 12:36 PM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
We can use 20 gauge now so I might have to look into that prospect.

How long of a tube there Kim?


It's a t/c custom shop 20" turkey barrel. With the factory grip and supplied choke tube, it's 26 1/8" oal. I tried a pacmyre grip, but it's 1/8" too short; have to stick with factory grip.
Posted By: 500WE

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:12 PM

No, it's not a handgun. It's a shotgun under NFA regs. The "caliber" size also would make it a "Destructive device" if it was considered a handgun, subject to the same tax / licensing as full autos, etc.
Posted By: Whitworth

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:14 PM

He was kidding. He just wanted to know that if we call it a handgun that he will be able to post here about it.
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:19 PM

 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
He was kidding. He just wanted to know that if we call it a handgun that he will be able to post here about it.


I thought I was clear about that Whit, but the hits keep coming ;-)

I am going to do something like Kim did with his Encore. The only real difference will be the action tho, and the weight. Its the only way I will be able to kill a turkey with a "handgun" in MN.
Posted By: wheeler45

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 5:59 PM

I would not call it a handgun. Neither would the state of Indiana. Indiana restricts handgun barrels to less than 16 inches. Be that as it may, if legal in your state, shoot your turkey with the Mossberg.
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 6:24 PM

 Quote:
Be that as it may, if legal in your state, shoot your turkey with the Mossberg.


I will, and it is also legal in your state as it is a legal shotgun regardless of how one holds it ;-)
Posted By: kingfisher

Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 9:48 PM

Will you bring me a turkey sandwich to the NC hog hunt? This thread is making me hungry!....
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