Handgunhunt
Handgun, or no?
Posted By: s4s4u
Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:09 PM
I wish to kill a turkey with a handgun but the powers that be in MN don't seem to understand.
So, if I killed one with one of these, holding nothing but the grip, could I call it a "handgun" turkey? Bipod?
I'm gonna have to do some wrist excersizes ;-) What say ye?
Posted By: wapitirod
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:11 PM
works for me
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 8:32 PM
Works for me as well -- LOL!
Posted By: archr610
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 9:54 PM
Works for me also. Pennsylvania states shotgun is legal for spring turkey. No where does it say it had to be fired from the shoulder.
You've got me thinking Rod, cause I have on of those.
Jeff
Posted By: BBwheelgunner
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:07 PM
go get em!
Posted By: 240
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:28 PM
If you do this, be sure to film it:) I bet those turkey loads are stiff!
Posted By: RUG1
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 10:46 PM
Hmmm. Food for thought...
Posted By: rlb
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/09/2012 11:44 PM
Good idea. No bipod though. It should be rested on the knee and fired with the stiffest 3 1/2" load you can find.
Posted By: sc1911cwp
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:26 AM
I would use two hands unless you want to end up on You Tube.
Posted By: archr610
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:39 AM
Good idea. No bipod though. It should be rested on the knee and fired with the stiffest 3 1/2" load you can find.
Whats a 3 1/2" load. LOL. Mossberg 500 doesn't eat 3 1/2"
I have fired 3" buckshot off the hip with this gun and didn't find it any fun.
I'm thinking: close up (no choke on mine), high brass #6's or standard turkey load, gun rested over a log or stump with sandbag or pack ala Contender style. Warm up the fryer.
Posted By: racksmasher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:51 AM
Turkey from the hip, still tastes the same.
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 2:26 AM
OK, I'll be the Grinch That Stole Christmas. IMHO, hell no that's not a handgun. Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence... plus, IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less. Whatsmore, here in Alabama and likely most other states, the man in green and sometimes referred to as the Boogeyman must state that it "works for him" which in this case ain't gonna happen. Wish you well, tho!
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 5:14 AM
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...
Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
Posted By: Gregg Richter
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 7:29 AM
Where are u, Ernie...let's see you weigh in on this.
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:30 AM
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...
Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
I guess the length is what's goona get ya.
Posted By: archr610
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:33 AM
legal handgun barrels are 16" and less. Whatsmore,
Where's my hacksaw ?
Jeff
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:46 AM
IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less.
My definition is 6" or less.....LOL!
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:07 AM
IMHO and opinion of judges, legal handgun barrels are 16" and less.
My definition is 6" or less.....LOL!
I knew you would arrive, Whit
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:27 AM
Hey, gotta stay consistent! LOL!
Posted By: Boot
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 12:02 PM
Would this allow you to be legal? In ga, turkey hunters are limited by ammo, not platform.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-taurus-raging-judge-28-gauge-revolver/
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 1:16 PM
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...
Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
I guess the length is what's goona get ya.
The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 2:53 PM
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...
Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
I guess the length is what's goona get ya.
The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)
Illinois and Iowa 16"+ is a big no-no, but I agree with you--what's a few inches as long as you don't get caught!?
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 3:31 PM
Get caught doing what? There is nothing illegal about using a Mossberg 500 for turkey. The discussion was whether the folks on this board would consider it a handgun kill if used as a handgun, not about the legality of an 18" barreled handgun.
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 3:40 PM
The pistol grip makes it a pistol.
Posted By: SChunter
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 5:47 PM
Hmmm. NC laws don't allow pistols for turkey, regardless of barrel length.
But...in the same fashion that gun owners can take a Savage or Remington rifle, put a rear grip stock on it and leave the barrel length long enough to clear a total overall length of 26", they're good with a "rifle" action in a pistol platform.
Heck my rear grip Weatherby isn't called a pistol by the manufacturer, but rather a CFP (Compact Firing Platform).
Really gray area - just depends on how your warden WANTS to interpret the local regs.
I'm gonna stick with my Benelli (full stock).
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 6:15 PM
I think he is simply trying to pass the shotgun off as a handgun to be able to post his results on this site. Am I correct?
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 6:28 PM
I think he is simply trying to pass the shotgun off as a handgun to be able to post his results on this site. Am I correct?
Ding, ding, ding...
We have a winner!
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:08 PM
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:33 PM
Get caught doing what? There is nothing illegal about using a Mossberg 500 for turkey. The discussion was whether the folks on this board would consider it a handgun kill if used as a handgun, not about the legality of an 18" barreled handgun.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave (G)
Posted By: KRal
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:41 PM
I would suggest one of these......
"I" call it a handgun, but by NFA's definition it's a shotgun with a pistol grip. Either way, I get to turkey hunt with a 20ga. "handgun".
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 9:42 PM
Do they do a 12?
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 10:48 PM
I would suggest one of these......
"I" call it a handgun, but by NFA's definition it's a shotgun with a pistol grip. Either way, I get to turkey hunt with a 20ga. "handgun".
Nice sight!
Posted By: KRal
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/10/2012 11:05 PM
Yes, but I wouldn't want to shoot one. I also have the 12ga. 24" barrel that I use to use (with shoulder stock). It's the worst gun I've ever fired (recoil), and I've owned three M835 3.5".
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 1:13 AM
We can use 20 gauge now so I might have to look into that prospect.
How long of a tube there Kim?
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 2:30 AM
For some reason I feel we are dealing with an ego. Don't know why??? At least that's what my friends tell me about my cannons (G)
Posted By: Gregg Richter
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 6:48 AM
Show me a PUMP handgun somewhere in existence...
Would it make any difference if it were a single shot?
I guess the length is what's goona get ya.
The only state that I am aware of that restricts a handgun barrel's maximum length is New York. I know many who have custom XP's and Strikers with barrels in excess of 16" in length. My first Contender pistol came with a 16-1/4" barrel. What's a couple of inches among friends ;-)
Illinois and Iowa 16"+ is a big no-no, but I agree with you--what's a few inches as long as you don't get caught!?
Huh?
Sorry but ya lost me on that one.
Posted By: KRal
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 12:36 PM
We can use 20 gauge now so I might have to look into that prospect.
How long of a tube there Kim?
It's a t/c custom shop 20" turkey barrel. With the factory grip and supplied choke tube, it's 26 1/8" oal. I tried a pacmyre grip, but it's 1/8" too short; have to stick with factory grip.
Posted By: 500WE
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:12 PM
No, it's not a handgun. It's a shotgun under NFA regs. The "caliber" size also would make it a "Destructive device" if it was considered a handgun, subject to the same tax / licensing as full autos, etc.
Posted By: Whitworth
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:14 PM
He was kidding. He just wanted to know that if we call it a handgun that he will be able to post here about it.
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 3:19 PM
He was kidding. He just wanted to know that if we call it a handgun that he will be able to post here about it.
I thought I was clear about that Whit, but the hits keep coming ;-)
I am going to do something like Kim did with his Encore. The only real difference will be the action tho, and the weight. Its the only way I will be able to kill a turkey with a "handgun" in MN.
Posted By: wheeler45
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 5:59 PM
I would not call it a handgun. Neither would the state of Indiana. Indiana restricts handgun barrels to less than 16 inches. Be that as it may, if legal in your state, shoot your turkey with the Mossberg.
Posted By: s4s4u
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 6:24 PM
Be that as it may, if legal in your state, shoot your turkey with the Mossberg.
I will, and it is also legal in your state as it is a legal shotgun regardless of how one holds it ;-)
Posted By: kingfisher
Re: Handgun, or no? - 08/11/2012 9:48 PM
Will you bring me a turkey sandwich to the NC hog hunt? This thread is making me hungry!....