Are you fooling yourselves

Found this quote in a cabelas forum...thought you guys might have fun with this!

"A handgun is a handgun! These guys that are taking big and dangerous game with the now tremendous calibers which we have are fooling themselves! Handguns of any cliber are short range weapons! Even the 500, the 454, and the 460 are all short range weapons.
The Contenders, and the "such like" are not really "handguns" - they are an insult to a real handgunner! The 44 magnum is adequate for any handgunning - I have a 454 and hardly ever use it - I've fired the 500 and wasn't too impressed with it.
50 yards is the farthest range ANY game should be shot with any hndgun - all other "stories" are just that - storys!"
Harry B.

Tell Harry to "zip it"...and we'll have to agree to disagree!

wow... 50 yards?


hhmmmm

Sigh, all that 100yd practice for nothin'

maybe Harry would like to stand out at 200yds while I shoot at him with my big bores, after all if he's right I can't hit him and if I do it will just bounce off and fall to the ground.

I kinda feel sorry for ol' Harry, especially if you guys go after him!

Are you encouraging us to Gregg?

No.

Wow, sounds like someone fell off the turnip truck a little too hard. Even though this is only my 3rd season of big game handgun hunting, I know that with a good rest my Bisley Hunter & I could harvest deer at a 100 yards.

haha i thought these responses would be entertaining.


I think harry is just envious of us fools!

Harry is an idiot.

I'm glad I'm still a noob at handgun hunting, and not an expert like ol' harry. That 9 pt buck I took last week at 80 yds woulda got away, if I had known earlier that all my practice past 50 yds was just a waste of time.

Check the classifed ads............

FOR SALE: All my handguns that ARE NOT .44 MAGNUMS....since Harry says that's all I need.

460 can't do more than 50 yards....

THEMS FIGHTN WORDS!!!

Harry, you have NO IDEA what you're missin out on. But that's okay. You probably limit your rifle to 75 yards too.

Obviously your shooting skills SUCK!!!!

I just knew it. All you guys are making your videos at the same studio the moon landing was filmed.

.....and if I had a dollar for every time I was told "you can't kill a deer with a handgun".

I really hate it when some people impose their limitations on others......

I just registered

Anyone have a link to the thread??

now you know why I'm selling my 458 Lott Barrel, it's a disgrace to real handgunners and it wouldn't kill anything anyhow. Hey Whit I think you need to grab your 50AK and I'll bring the Lott and we'll take Harry shooting

I have a good friend that kinda thinks like that. He says my handguns are not really handguns because they are rifle cartriges?????????????????????? LOL

Well we all know that EVERYTHING that is said from or near the word CABELAS is the most accurate info ever stated...

I wish I had a dollar every time I heard the above statement since I started using Speciality Pistols in 1982. Obviously ole Harry B has been spreading the word.

Man I feel sorry for ole Harry B, he really needs to get a grip on things as he doesn't have a clue.

Larry

He doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground.

Oh Harry, Harry, Harry, Harry, Harry, Harry.....

Harry, Harry, Harry, Harry.....

Harry.....

Shut the @#$% up Harry, you are making a fool of yourself!

wipitrod 200 yrds with your bigbore, ill not do that if it was a 22 rimfire

https://forums.cabelas.com/showthread.php?t=17718&page=2

It never ceases to amaze me just how clueless some people are. I find it hard to believe that Harry is that stupid - my guess is that he is just a troll.

hell I wouldn't do it with a pellet gun but this guy is an idiot. I wonder what he thinks about these new airguns they are killing deer and pigs with?

Oh no! I have eaten a bunch of deer that were not really dead. They were shot way past 50 yards with a pistol.

Who is Harry B?

A clueless, pontificating blatherer.

I respect a man that knows his limitations.

Not very opinionated, is he?

Harry just is not converted yet. Three years ago if you would have told me that I would be able to hit a 4 inch plastic disc at 200 yards, or a 16 inch steel gong at 300 yards with my .44 mag Super Blackhawk Bisley Hunter I would have told you that you were mad, but I've done it. Maybe he is from Missouri, and we need to show him.

Grendel, I doubt if Harry is from Missouri. Most of us here are well-grounded.

Oh ,Harry the Expert ... lord

And very friendly too. What was I thinking;)

I have been practicing out to 170 yards with my open sighted .45 Super and I can gurantee you that he doesn't want me shooting at him. Hopefully he will either learn a little more about handgun hunting or allow us our way of doing it. reflex264

I think he's from Ohio.

I guess we are over Qualified.

That's one way of looking at it -- LOL!!

I have the limitations of a 44 magnum and 50 yards max currently, but I don't blame the handguns.

If he doesn't think the 460 can go beyond 50 yards, I'll make him a deal he can't refuse unless he wants to admit he's an idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'll have him go out to 200 yards, which is FOUR TIMES his claim, and have him stand 10 feet away from one of those explosive targets the size of a milk jug. If I miss, well, he gets to walk away and his claim is in tact. If I hit it, I get to laugh my arse off!!!

If he REALLY believes what he says, he has no reason to be concerned!!! MWUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Ole Harry is one of those 100yd Riflemen than couldnt hit a Bull in a Boat with a Bass Fiddle !! and thinks he's a Pro Hunter! I'm not bragging but just where I hunt at... most all my shots at big game animals with my Handguns are at more than 50yds.

An interesting post. A lot of "firm" responses. A point that this presents is that everyone's level of proficiency is different. We all have an "effective range", the range at which you can reliably take game, that range is determined by your skill level and the parameters of the fire arm you are using.

With the modern big bore high velocity calibers available to handgun hunters it is quite possible to hit targets at very long ranges. However there are other considerations, one being hunter ethics. No one wants to shoot at an animal if they think that they might just wound it. So familiarity with the ballistics of your hunting round and an ability to accurately estimate distances is also necessary. What is the flight time of you bullet at a given distance, is it long enough that the animal has the time to take a step and turn a heart/lung shot into something below the diaphragm...?

I think that Harry has some good points, but probably for the wrong reasons.

I also want to add here that I have read a lot of the posts, and as a long time hunter ed instructor I am quite impressed by the maturity and ethics of the membership here.

What I get a kick out of is Harry has this for his profile info

Biography:
Gunsmithing 50 years experience, I build sniper rifles, African rifles and heavy handgun shooting -
Location:
South-eastern Ohio area
Interests:
Ocean fishing, Gunsmithing - muzzle loader building.
Occupation:
Retired

Apparently these heavy handguns which also is apparently a 44 mag, lob an object so heavy that when fired like a howitzer only travels 50 yards.

He also said he built a 3" heavy barreled ruger 22 pistol for the special forces.

Now this one realy shows his lack of knowledge on how many older barrels have been constructed especially for a man that claims to be a muzzle loader maker.

I'll tell you one:
I was at Williamsburg Va, and several times toured the gun shop and once took one of my rifles down just enough for them to take me into their confidence! The next visit they were reaming a barrel and called me over and said "What do you see in that barrel?'
I said, "A seam!"
The next day I wittnessed them at the forge with the barrel almost at welding heat on the forge avil with a rod through the barrel trying to hammer that seam together!
Uh! Hu! That barrel was "fixed" and the gun was probably sold for $25,000.00 to some rich banker who would never shoot it (thank God) and hang it over his mantle piece! So much for "experts!
We can, with a good book to guide one do much of the custom work that any gun needs to be RIGHT. There is a big difference between a gun that just does work and onw that really works right!
Harry b.

Apparently how to make a pipe is beyond harry and all barrels since the beginning of time have been made by boring a whole in something. Wouldn't he be horrified to know how a rotary forged barrel is made...

Also who Names their kid Harry Bonar.

Harry is obviously a tool.

did you see this post by Harry ?

'' Sirs;
Yes, I used to hunt deer with a handgun. However a scope on any handgun is totally worthless IMHO. Handgun range, regardless of calibers, recommendations, stories is a 50 yard affair! With a scope all you see is hair at this range and takes you longer than plain open sights.
Harry B.''

2x scope would fix that problem.

altho he has heard the name, I sincerely doubt that this guy knows Jack!

Ole Harry needs more than a different scope, Harry B needs an education.

thats hes limits not every ones .i say set your on limit

And more "firm" responses .. The scope nonsense is just that, if anything you can get a better sight picture quicker with a scope. You significantly increase the effective range of a handgun with the addition of a good optical sight.

70 yards 50 cal muzzleloading handgun took the top of the heart off with good restb100 yards same gun no problem at all.

Contenders are handguns as long as they have a14 or shorter barrel. My opinion.

He sounds like a dreamer