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First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender (Updated)

Posted By: Mech 8

First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender (Updated) - 12/07/2020 9:38 PM




Took this Hill Country 8 point this past weekend and thought I would share the story. It actually begins in late 2016 or early 2017 when I received an email from SSK about a barrel sale. They were offering a 15 percent discount on barrels in 8(7.92)x33 Kurz, and 8(7.92)x57. I remembered from way back when I first got into Contenders that SSK offered the 8x57 in a list of available chamberings, but at the time I was too preoccupied with collecting the more popular ones like the 6.5, 309, and 375 JDJ's. Now that I had most of the popular ones in my collection, the 8x57 seemed interesting. I ordered the barrel with the TSOB base and while I waited for it to arrive, I set about getting the reloading items. When everything was acquired I began load work with Speer 170 grain Semi Spitzers, and IMR 4064 powder. I found a decent load that would group into about 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards for five shots, but I just don't like working with IMR 4064 due to it's difficulty metering in a RCBS Uniflow powder measure. I switched to IMR 8208 with the 170 grain Speers and found a more accurate load that worked really well through the measure. I was happy with the load and content to take an animal with it, but you know how it is when you discover something new or different. You gotta try it and see how it works. The something new was the Barnes 160 grain TTSX bullet and CFE223 powder. After checking every resource I could find, including the online Hodgdon Data Center, the numbers showed higher velocities with lower pressures using this combination of bullet and powder. I started two grains below the minimum listed, and when I got to .3 grains above the minimum listed load, five shots went into a hair over one inch with a velocity of 2597 fps. I only chronographed the load that one time for the five shots, and that's what the screen read. I expansion tested at 100 yards into 3 one gallon jugs and everything looked good, but the gun/barrel hadn't made it into the rotation until now.



The above pic shows the similarity of the (L)309JDJ, (C)8x57, and (R)338JDJ#2.



The bullet on the left is the Barnes 160 grain TTSX, and on the right is the Speer 170 grain SSP.



Load work for the SSK 8x57 using the Barnes 160 grain TTSX and CFE223 powder.

The buck was following a doe and had worked his way to within about 50 yards, and was quartering towards me slightly when I hit him in his left shoulder. He managed to run about 90 yards with a decent blood trail, including bits of lung material on the ground at the point of bullet impact. No bullet recovery of course.



Entrance.



Entrance chest cavity.



Exit chest cavity.



Exit.

I know one test is not enough to prove anything, so I guess I'll have to shoot something else with this barrel/bullet combo and see if the results concur. I like out of the ordinary stuff like a Contender in 8x57. Besides, 8 is my lucky number!

Follow up to the story.



Home cooked Euro mount. Boiling for about 4 to 6 hours.



Finished product after soaking in hydrogen peroxide for 5 days.
Posted By: Franchise

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/07/2020 9:57 PM

I like oddball calibers and cartridges too. Excellent write up and impressive performance. Thank you for sharing your results.
Posted By: Ernie

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/07/2020 10:25 PM

That is Cool!
Posted By: Sawfish

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/07/2020 10:45 PM

The 8 x 57 is a grand old cartridge that had more than a little to do with the birthing of the 30/06. My first "big game" rifle was a M98 Mauser purchased from Montgomery Wards for the princely sum of $27.50 gave me a real appreciation for this old round.
Posted By: Pa. Mike

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 12:19 AM

Congratulations on a very nice buck. This was an excellent write up with great photos!
Posted By: Mark Hampton

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 12:35 AM

Congrats - well done with a unique cartridge.
Posted By: 45MAN

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 12:47 AM

GOOD REPORT, AND VERY INTERESTING. I WAS NOT AWARE YOU COULD DO THE 8x57 IN A CONTENDER
Posted By: Mech 8

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 1:46 AM

Thanks to all for the kind words. I know SSK offered an 8mmJDJ based on the 444 Marlin case, but I think the 8x57 is pretty close performance wise. I really want to try it on one of our big feral hogs and see how it works.
Posted By: Chance Weldon

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 2:10 AM

Congrats! Great write up, too!

 Originally Posted By: 45MAN
I WAS NOT AWARE YOU COULD DO THE 8x57 IN A CONTENDER

Same here.
Posted By: Franchise

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 2:37 AM

It's a 35,000 psi cartridge...about 30,000 less than a 308 Win....it's definitely a Contender Cartridge
Posted By: Mech 8

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 3:11 AM

SAAMI has kept the pressure rating low just in case someone shoots a .323 diameter bullet out of an old .318 bore. The European industry standard is much more in line with the .308 Win or 30/06 I believe. You can shoot American made ammo without issue but you would be cutting the cartridge's performance off at the knees. If you compare the case head size to the 444 Marlin, which JD Jones uses for a lot of his cartridges, you'll realize you can load a little warmer than the 35K that the industry uses. I would not shoot the European factory loads in this barrel, I feel that they could cause a problem. In working with this cartridge and a 7mmJDJ#2, I found the CFE223 to provide higher velocities with no pressure indications. I think it might have something to with it's copper erasing additive slicking up the bore. I can't prove that, only a theory.
Posted By: Franchise

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 3:21 AM

Cool! Sounds like a great round for a single shot. I can't wait to see you bust a big boar with it.
Posted By: ruger4570

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 11:52 AM

Nice buck. Thanks for a great write up and pics. Unknown cartridge to me, but certainly looks capable.
Posted By: cmnash

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 1:25 PM

That's a good looking buck. Congratulations on breaking in a new gun right!

2597 fps with a premium bullet like the TTSX sounds like a load with a ton of potential to be effective on game larger than deer.
Posted By: Zee

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 3:06 PM

Very nice!!
Posted By: Brenden

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/08/2020 11:23 PM

Well done. I love all things 8mm. It's a very underated cartridge.
Posted By: gunslingerdad

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/09/2020 12:57 AM

well done- that seems like a very capable cartridge.
Posted By: Bob Roach

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/13/2020 3:09 AM

Good write up, and an interesting cartridge.
I would have guessed the 8mm Mauser to be way warmer than a Contender/G2 could take. The velocity you are getting is not bad at all. I may need to try some CFE223 in some of my chamberings.

Bob R
Posted By: reflex264

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/14/2020 1:34 PM

Very nice. I have always liked the 8x57.
Posted By: Willicd76

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/15/2020 2:43 AM

I don?t believe you are getting 2600fps with that bullet out of a 15? barrel at anywhere close to 35k psi. I?d be very careful....
Posted By: Carpe Diem

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/15/2020 4:11 AM

The minimum charge on Hodgdon?s site produces 42,100 CUP, pretty high for a case that size. The Contender was chambered to the same sized .45 Win Mag, Hodgdon lists a maximum pressure of 38,400 CUP. Years ago I stretched a frame with what I thought was a ?safe? load. I too would recommend caution.





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Posted By: racksmasher1

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/15/2020 10:40 AM

Congrats on a nice Buck, good write up!
Posted By: jwp475

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender - 12/15/2020 3:32 PM


CONGRATULATIONS!
Posted By: billa

Re: First blood for SSK 8x57 Contender (Updated) - 12/17/2020 11:25 AM

Great buck. Congratulations. The 8x57 looks like a fantastic cartridge for the Contender. Well done!!!
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