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Poor mans trigger.......

Posted By: asquires2

Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 12:47 AM

HAs anyone tried the poormans trigger and if so what is your take on it and is it safe?
Posted By: Vance in AK.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:06 AM

If you mean removing one spring leg on the Ruger single actions, it does wonders & it is safe. Best 5 minutes you can spend with the gun!
Posted By: Grendel

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:07 AM

Yes I have. So far no issues. Working the hammer forward with the thumb smooth things out too. my only worry was whether it had enough force to "pop" the primer. So far, so good.
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:08 AM

Thats what Im talking about! Man I cant wait to take this gorgeous piece a machinery to the range and put her through her paces!
Posted By: KYODE

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:18 AM

i did my bisley hunter. it will serve me fine, i'm pretty sure. it feels much better now. i think it feels nearly identical to my redhawk.
a buddy has a bisley hunter that had a wolf spring kit put in. it feels really sweet!....but....mine is close enough for my purposes.

http://www.handgunhunt.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/80016/page/4#Post80016

i don't know why more people won't respond to these posts. i know several others HAVE some single action rugers. i'd like to know how everyone done theirs, how they like it, n which method they prefer.
Posted By: Vance in AK.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:30 AM

 Originally Posted By: Grendel
Yes I have. So far no issues. Working the hammer forward with the thumb smooth things out too. my only worry was whether it had enough force to "pop" the primer. So far, so good.

If I'm not mistaken (I often am...) it shouldn't have any effect on primer ignition. It's just a trigger spring. The hammer spring is on the strut & it controls the hammer's striking force.
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:49 AM

I just converted mine and it seems to brake a little cleaner. I just ordered my scope base to top her off with a J Point which I dont think Ill keep.I picked up some Hornady Evos now Im loking for somr XTPs since I dont reload and once its all said and done, off to the range
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 3:02 AM

Man I feel a sickness coming on and I think they call it revolver flu.
Posted By: H2OBUG

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 3:09 AM

All mine have Wolf springs--much better than stock--If you work the parts while it is apart it helps even more.

Mine all have Belt Mtn pins and Power Custom Pawls too--Just like the way that set-up works.

My smith did all mine whlie he had them mounting the scope base
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 3:12 AM

Rite on!
Posted By: Vance in AK.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 5:12 AM

 Originally Posted By: asquires2
Man I feel a sickness coming on and I think they call it revolver flu.


There is no cure my friend... Just treat the symptoms with plenty of reloading & shooting...
Posted By: johnwilliams

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:20 PM

I 've really had that bug bad for the last 3 weeks(since the close of deer season)I'm gonna have to do some reloading and casting to turn away the "Revolver Blues"!!
Posted By: Grendel

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 2:57 PM

 Originally Posted By: Vance in AK.
 Originally Posted By: Grendel
Yes I have. So far no issues. Working the hammer forward with the thumb smooth things out too. my only worry was whether it had enough force to "pop" the primer. So far, so good.

If I'm not mistaken (I often am...) it shouldn't have any effect on primer ignition. It's just a trigger spring. The hammer spring is on the strut & it controls the hammer's striking force.
My worry was that by changing anything on the original design may affect operation.
Posted By: minnesotahunter

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 6:41 PM

Worked great for me!

Not quite as good as the trigger job on my brothers Vaquero, but pretty close.

Good enough for me, and MUCH better than it was.

MN
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/27/2011 9:54 PM

 Originally Posted By: Vance in AK.
 Originally Posted By: asquires2
Man I feel a sickness coming on and I think they call it revolver flu.


There is no cure my friend... Just treat the symptoms with plenty of reloading & shooting...


I dont reload(dont have the space) but I plan to do some shooting! This is just wrong, I have a couple nice long guns in my gun cabinet and I dont think they wil have any range time this year. Thats just wrong!
Posted By: TCTex.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 12:49 AM

Ya... What they said!!!

Duane
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 1:04 AM

After the Poor Mans trigger job I added a sight to it lastnite to see what it looked like.




Doesnt look bad but John Wayne didnt have a red dot on his gun, lol!
Posted By: Vance in AK.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 1:20 AM

Now that is one fine looking handgun!!!!
I have plenty of long guns that do nothing but collect dust. The lone exception is a custom Marlin Guide gun in 450 Marlin. Still, 9 out of 10 times a revolver will be my tool of choice on the hunt.
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 1:33 AM

I think thats where Im headed too. I took a deer with my 629 and about fell out of my treestand. Its on the same lines as archery but on a different level. A handgun can be worked around those tight spots without being busted alot easier to pack and alot more funner to shot. All of my friends shake their heads at me cause when its time to hit the sticks ,they grab their shotguns and muzzleloaders and I grab my pistol and bow. To me it adds to the sport of hunting. To me its not hunting when you drop a animal at 300yrds, thats slaughter to me . That animal never had a chance. Im not anti long gun by any means but I like the fact you having to be on top of your game to score with a hand gun and iron sights.
Posted By: KRal

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 1:45 AM

 Originally Posted By: asquires2
......... To me its not hunting when you drop a animal at 300yrds, thats slaughter to me . That animal never had a chance. Im not anti long gun by any means but I like the fact you having to be on top of your game to score with a hand gun and iron sights.


You're gonna upset Mr. Ernie.....lol
;\)
Posted By: H2OBUG

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 2:29 AM

I will say this to try to help those that have not hunted out west. May times a west Texas 250 is the same as a Alabama 75--

I do not use my wheelguns much out west simply because the big deer are very -- very seldom closer than 250 where I hunt--

If you are OK shooting a smaller deer--I stalked within 3 feet of a 1 year old buck and within 20 yards of a 3 year old 10pt this year (no roman nose and his horns were just outsie his ear--next year maybe)

But the 14 pt (scored 206) that was killed the week after we left never got closer than 1000yds--and the cull 7pt I tried 3 times to kill never got closer than 350 that is just to much for the old 356 and a range finder that was hit or miss (when it worked)

No chance with the 44 or 45
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 2:47 AM

Dont wanna upset Mr Ernie, sry Mr Ernie,lol!
Posted By: s4s4u

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 2:54 AM

 Quote:
To me its not hunting when you drop a animal at 300yrds


Obviously you don't hunt in the open. At times you will be dang lucky to get within 300 yards of a Mulie or Speedgoat in the open.

This is why we have bullseye and speed competitions, nothing is for everyone.
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 2:56 AM

 Originally Posted By: H2OBUG
I will say this to try to help those that have not hunted out west. May times a west Texas 250 is the same as a Alabama 75--

I do not use my wheelguns much out west simply because the big deer are very -- very seldom closer than 250 where I hunt--

If you are OK shooting a smaller deer--I stalked within 3 feet of a 1 year old buck and within 20 yards of a 3 year old 10pt this year (no roman nose and his horns were just outsie his ear--next year maybe)

But the 14 pt (scored 206) that was killed the week after we left never got closer than 1000yds--and the cull 7pt I tried 3 times to kill never got closer than 350 that is just to much for the old 356 and a range finder that was hit or miss (when it worked)

No chance with the 44 or 45



Ok I will give you a little lead way for some situations but not all
;\)
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 2:59 AM

 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
 Quote:
To me its not hunting when you drop a animal at 300yrds


Obviously you don't hunt in the open. At times you will be dang lucky to get within 300 yards of a Mulie or Speedgoat in the open.

This is why we have bullseye and speed competitions, nothing is for everyone.


No I dont hunt alot of open areas.
Posted By: Vance in AK.

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 4:41 AM

I used to enjoy shooting rock chucks at the longest possible (for me)ranges. At that time I had an XP in 221. From there it was contenders. Back then laser range finders were non-existeny (as far as I know. There were some bulky split image range finders but they were not super accurate. Then it was long range (for me) rifles. My favorite was a Ruger #1 in 6mm Rem. Also had a 700BDL heavy barrel in .222 that was a tack driver but had a hard time bucking wind on cross canyon chucks at 400+yds. I still have a lot of respect for the guys that get 'er done at long range, it's just not my thing anymore. I got into muzzle loaders & bow hunting. Passed up a lot of NICE muley bucks in Montana at 200 yds because it was too far for the muzzle loader. Watched a caribou walk at 125 yds for the same reason. Chased moose & elk with the longbow & passed some I could have taken with a compound, a lot I could have taken with a rifle. Now it's the handgun. Like asquires 2 I find it fills the niche for a bow hunter that likes to hear "boom" & is loosing his shoulders.
I like close. Revolver close (under 100yds). I carried my Guide Gun on a brown bear hunt last year because the cover was thick, I was alone, & I'm a chicken :-)

Oh, & I'm a FORD man all the way!


To each his own...
Posted By: Ernie

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 5:45 AM

You guys are funny


 Originally Posted By: asquires2
Dont wanna upset Mr Ernie, sry Mr Ernie,lol!
Posted By: Scott Gray

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 5:54 PM

I just did the Poor Mans trigger job(liftin one arm of the spring) on my Ruger Super Blackhawk and I have to admit that it feels like it cut the trigger pull in half.
Posted By: guitarpicva

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/28/2011 6:37 PM

 Originally Posted By: Vance in AK.
...
Oh, & I'm a FORD man all the way!

...


Now you're talkin'! VA made (well used to be anyway).
Posted By: asquires2

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/29/2011 12:20 AM

 Originally Posted By: Scott Gray
I just did the Poor Mans trigger job(liftin one arm of the spring) on my Ruger Super Blackhawk and I have to admit that it feels like it cut the trigger pull in half.


Thats what I thought whe I did mine.
Posted By: NonPCnraRN

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 01/31/2011 1:10 AM

I tried a Poor Man's trigger job on 3 Birds Head Vaqueros and 2 New Vaqueros all in 45 Colt. All turned out fine except for a little creep that will take a good smith to remove. I then tried it on a Super Blackhawk and the trigger wouldn't return without a slight nudge with my trigger finger. I put the leg of the spring back on and it was back to normal. So what I did was take a needle nose pliers to both legs bending them both just enough that it felt the same as removing one leg, but the trigger returns normally now. The part about pulling the trigger while applying force to the hammer has not hurt any of my guns but some very knowledgeable sixgunners cringe when you mention doing that. I am not sure who to believe because the first I heard of a Poor Man's Trigger Job was an article by Jeff Quinn on Gunblast.com. I guess I didn't go too far and break things. I will eventually want a real trigger job done to remove the creep. But it is good for now. Also I found that the trigger pulls on my New Vaqueros don't have the creep that the original Vaqueros did.
Posted By: bluecow

Re: Poor mans trigger....... - 02/01/2011 1:18 PM

on the sbh took one leg off and it did wonders. forced the hammer while pulling the trigger about 10 times and she smoothed up a bit more. dont want to break anything so i stopped there. i also have a single six that i've been trying too wear out for about 30 years. it's still smoother that the blackhawk, but... so i took one leg of the single six. the hammer had a hitch in it when cocked and the trigger sometimes needed a nudge to get it all the way forward. not the way to go with my 22. the 44 still uses only one leg but im thinking of going back to the way she came from ruger.
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