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Rings for ultra dot #94014 10/25/2011 11:36 PM
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I have a 7.5" BFR on 500 S&W and I am thinking of putting an ultra dot on, but the rings that come with them look like they were designed for a rimfire pistol. I'm pretty sure a full house load out of that monster will snap them in a heartbeat- actually I think it would break a lot of rings that are out there. What are good rings to get for LOTS of recoil? This would be my first optic mounted on a handgun, so I'm sure I will have lots of questions.

Also, I have to order the weaver mount for the pistol from MR, as my gun was an old stock item that didnt come with one. Sugguestions?


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94017 10/26/2011 12:11 AM
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I've used the aluminum units but I triple up on them and they seem to work fine.


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Whitworth] #94021 10/26/2011 1:25 AM
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Warne makes great steel rings. They make them in 30 mm and 1" Check them out. They are good, strong rings.


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Franchise] #94022 10/26/2011 1:30 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Franchise
Warne makes great steel rings. They make them in 30 mm and 1" Check them out. They are good, strong rings.


Definitely a better option.


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94026 10/26/2011 1:44 AM
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Burris Signature 30 mm "Z" rings for Weaver style base.

Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Whitworth] #94028 10/26/2011 1:54 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
I've used the aluminum units but I triple up on them and they seem to work fine.


Are you referring to the factory (ultra dot) rings?


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94039 10/26/2011 3:25 AM
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Yes. I've used them on some heavy kickers and they were fine, particularly when we used three of them (securing an Ultradot 30 to a BFR in .500 JRH).


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Whitworth] #94042 10/26/2011 3:39 AM
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WOW! I am very surprised they held up! They don't look very strong, but what do I know, right? Thanks!


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94043 10/26/2011 3:49 AM
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I was looking through my safe tonight and I realized I still had a set of One Ragged Hole rear sights left from my SBH. I didn't care for them on the short barrel on it so they have been hiding in the safe ever since. I tried them both and I still didn't like them. I just cannot get on them very fast.

Then I noticed that the factory rear sight on the BFR had a small gutter around the opening. I raided the wife's fingernail polish and this is what I came up with. Orange stripe down the front, and green around the back. We will see how it does out in the sun tomorrow.It will have to suffice until I can afford the Ultra Dot.


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94046 10/26/2011 11:15 AM
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That should work! Here is a photo of the BFR with the aluminum rings -- this is when we just put it on and it only had two rings. We later added a ring.



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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Whitworth] #94101 10/27/2011 6:30 AM
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Why did you add the third ring? Was it shifting zero, slipping in the rings or better safe than sorry?


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: saz] #94109 10/27/2011 11:28 AM
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It was a case of better safe than sorry. It didn't shift -- yet -- and I didn't want to take a chance.


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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: Whitworth] #94148 10/28/2011 2:14 PM
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I had the Ultra Dot turn from torque on my BFR .475. I used Warne steel rings. I have found some slipping problems with any ring and the factory aluminum rings are about like all others.
I now like to put 3 rings on and I put the front one right against the scope turret. I just never put a ring directly over any glass. I broke glass on a Bushnell red dot. These things need to be tighter then anything on a rifle.
I have a loopy base on my .44, rings are close together so I need a front extension ring. These have turn in lugs and after a while I sheared the lug right off. I called and they sent me a new set free but in the meantime I drilled and tapped the ring for a cap screw into the lug, then silver soldered it. It has never failed since. Even a .44 will break things. I have ruined many scopes, wiped out the soft Burris tubes, pulled glass out of cheap red dots like Millet and Bushnell. I steel bed the prism back in and they hold better then the Chinese glue.
I seen a picture of a base breaking in half. Bases flex. G forces on a big revolver is nothing to laugh at.
Recoil has NEVER harmed an Ultra Dot but mounting systems can fail. Base screws come loose and screws can shear. I don't like the heads up stuff because many have poor mounting systems.
As I have gone to larger revolvers like the .475 and .500's, it has been a learning experience.
Anything heavy on a big handgun needs to be avoided like the large variable scopes.
I have an OLD, OLD Loopy I have had since the handgun scope first came out and it has been on a hundred guns and is still going strong. I have a Tasco that can't be harmed but they are light, tough scopes, single power.
I was given a laser once and it was fun but I wiped it out, batteries were driven into the laser board.
Some stuff sold is so poor, you can take it out of the box, put it on a hunk of steel and smack it with a BIG hammer to save the work of mounting it.
I see pictures of stuff mounted on big revolvers on the sites that I know is going to fail, yet the stuff is recommended. I don't want to be a thorn but don't take things for granted.

Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: 430man] #94151 10/28/2011 3:11 PM
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Some stuff sold is so poor, you can take it out of the box, put it on a hunk of steel and smack it with a BIG hammer to save the work of mounting it.


Ain't that the truth ;-)


Rod, too.

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Re: Rings for ultra dot [Re: s4s4u] #94153 10/28/2011 3:13 PM
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Sadly, yes......


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