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new bolt action build, few questions #98168 12/18/2011 1:29 AM
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so I have another striker on its way (thanks Doc!) this one is a WSM bolt face already and should have savages large shank threading. this is 1.120x20 TPI. looking at a 15.9" barrel that is a straight cylinder, that would weigh about 4.25 pounds. is there any reason to go with something else. i would like to use the barrel nut still so a larger barrel is not an option. the stock im looking at is just over 4 pounds. im not looking to cut weight but dont really want to go over 12-13 pounds.

another question is would a repeater be a plus or not? I can go three ways here. single shot, factory blind mag and aftermarket detachable mag.

this build should come out neat. as of right now it will be this
Savage striker Large shank
Pac-Nor 9 twist barrel- contour TBD
rifle basix trigger
stock- we will just say custom for now, it will be 3 months or so out once i get the ball rolling
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thicker recoil lug
3 port Muscle brake
scope will likely be a nikon as ive had great luck with them and they do what I need repeatability wise


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: tyler.woodard04] #98169 12/18/2011 1:36 AM
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You've not stated an intended purpose for this gun.....determine that before diving off an extreme build. Super accurate guns do not have to be super heavy.

Never heard of a Muscle brake, but Ross Schueller (sp) makes a model similar to the Holland Radial brake and it is AWESOME!!

Straight cylinder.....man, that's beefy. I had one like that and hated it. IMO, you're going overkill on the heavy side. My WSM XP and .260 Striker are big LR guns but still nimble enough that if a short range offhand shot were presented (say, walking to or from a stand) it can be handled easily. Even running badgers are not match for my WSM XP!!
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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98188 12/18/2011 6:01 AM
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What are your plans for the takeoff stock and trigger?

Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98191 12/18/2011 7:08 AM
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Ross's brake is similar to Holland's Quick discharge.
It is not similar to the the radial design.

 Originally Posted By: Dan B.
You've not stated an intended purpose for this gun.....determine that before diving off an extreme build. Super accurate guns do not have to be super heavy.

Never heard of a Muscle brake, but Ross Schueller (sp) makes a model similar to the Holland Radial brake and it is AWESOME!!

Straight cylinder.....man, that's beefy. I had one like that and hated it. IMO, you're going overkill on the heavy side. My WSM XP and .260 Striker are big LR guns but still nimble enough that if a short range offhand shot were presented (say, walking to or from a stand) it can be handled easily. Even running badgers are not match for my WSM XP!!
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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Ernie] #98196 12/18/2011 10:29 AM
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whats your xp weigh? my other striker is 10#. maybe I should be looking to hit that number again. it is used to hunt long open fields as will the new one.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Ernie] #98198 12/18/2011 11:47 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Ernie
Ross's brake is similar to Holland's Quick discharge.
It is not similar to the the radial design.



I have four Ross brakes in the cabinet and two Holland QD's also. The Ross's I have are the ones with the radiused side ports to angle the gases rearward much like pictures of the Holland Radial brakes I've seen. My QD's are straight ports that merely vent the gases straight out the sides...exactly like the DE brake on my XP.

Did Ross change his design, maybe?

Tyler....I'll have to weigh my XP. Also, I didn't know you had another Striker, so you know the gig with HEAVY SP's. What are you going to chamber it in? I'd vote for a variation of the RSAUM case.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98199 12/18/2011 12:01 PM
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OK.....digital bathroom scale has my XP-100 WSM (w/ Burris 3-12x32) weighing in at 8.0lbs. My Striker .260 Rem (w/ Mueller 4.5-14) weighing in at 8.8lbs. The only thing they were not wearing was the bipods.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98202 12/18/2011 1:56 PM
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You must have what became the Muscle Brake.
He did make those for awhile, but I think he stopped doing that-Not 100% sure.
I had forgotten about that-Sorry.

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Ross's brake is similar to Holland's Quick discharge.
It is not similar to the the radial design.



I have four Ross brakes in the cabinet and two Holland QD's also. The Ross's I have are the ones with the radiused side ports to angle the gases rearward much like pictures of the Holland Radial brakes I've seen. My QD's are straight ports that merely vent the gases straight out the sides...exactly like the DE brake on my XP.

Did Ross change his design, maybe?



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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Ernie] #98207 12/18/2011 2:22 PM
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Oh....did he rename them?


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98210 12/18/2011 3:09 PM
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I think what you have is similar to what is now made by Jim See (Center Shot Rifles) maybe slightly modified, but I think the same guy who gave Ross the idea gave it to Jim as well-Long story.
Ross never called it the Muscle Brake that I know of.

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Oh....did he rename them?


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Ernie] #98217 12/18/2011 4:36 PM
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this one will be a 7WSM as I own a reamer for it and have a rifle so chambered. hoping to head space the same so i can get by with my current sizing set up. seating depth will most likely not be the same but is easier to set at the die. still up in the air on the barrel. might end up with another another krieger as ive had great luck with them.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: tyler.woodard04] #98221 12/18/2011 4:59 PM
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Hate you, mean it.

That was going to be my future build. I guess I will have to live vicariously through you until I save my pennies up.

Pics are mandatory now.

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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: tinkerer] #98227 12/18/2011 5:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: tinkerer
Pics are mandatory now.


Pics are always mandatory!


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98229 12/18/2011 7:42 PM
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there will be as soon as I get the stuff together guys. im thinking if I can get the stuff ordered by mid january I can have it all done by may for sure


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: tyler.woodard04] #98248 12/19/2011 12:13 AM
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Just had a 300 WSM made love it. So I would probably like a 7mm to. Im shooting 168VLDs with great results.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: bfr4570] #98254 12/19/2011 12:51 AM
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 Originally Posted By: bfr4570
So I would probably like a 7mm to.


You would love a 7mm.....same bullet weights as the .308" but much better BCs.


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Re: new bolt action build, few questions [Re: Dan B.] #98326 12/19/2011 10:17 PM
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did some calcs and it looks like the rig will weigh about 11.3 pounds with optics. plus the bipod so thats not to bad. right on coarse with the rifle it will be matching.


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