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when does one become another
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12/29/2011 8:34 PM
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so here in NY we have a 16" max barrel length for hunting. so I kept one of my strikers just under that, just. the brake screws on and from what I can see that does not count as barrel length because its not welded or pinned. now the overall length of that gun is a bit of 26". I know a rifle can not be under 26" or have a barrel less than 16". so as long as my barrel is under NY max does the overall length matter?
another question is lets say I put have a 18" barreled rifle action. always was and always will be. put it in that same stock and it would come to 28" but not have a rear stock. is that still a rifle or and illegal handgun?
I do not have such action and barrel for the record.
Tyler
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Re: when does one become another
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12/29/2011 8:47 PM
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If the entire length is over 26" it can be classified as a rifle regardless of the stock, as long as the barrel is over 16". Not sure about the finer points of NY law, but if the barrel is under 16" you are fine unless you put a buttstock on it.
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Re: when does one become another
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12/29/2011 10:19 PM
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If your striker action started life in the pistol stock then I think that as long as you keep it under NY's 16" barrel restriction you are good to go. I don't believe there is any federal restriction on the total length of a firearm (on the long side).
With respect to your 18" barreled rifle action, if that action started life as a rifle and you put it into the striker stock (removed the shoulder stock) and the total length is less than 26" then you have made a short barreled rifle. If you cut the barrel down to less than 16" then that action becomes illegal to assemble either as the original rifle or the striker (both would be considered a SBR).
I don't see any way to convert that 18" action to a striker without wandering into NFA issues.
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Re: when does one become another
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12/29/2011 10:45 PM
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not wanting to. not at all. the rifle action question is more or less if it stars as a rifle does it have to have a shoulder stock if the barrel is over 16 and overall is over 26. I know all the pistols becoming rifles and vice versa struff.
this was only for overall length and if to long, ,for a handgun action, would classify it a rifle for hunting. not trying to make anything other than a registered handgun into a handgun
Tyler
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Re: when does one become another
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12/30/2011 12:34 AM
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not wanting to. not at all. the rifle action question is more or less if it stars as a rifle does it have to have a shoulder stock if the barrel is over 16 and overall is over 26. I know all the pistols becoming rifles and vice versa struff. If you keep the length over 26" total it doesn't matter what kind of stock it has, as long as the barrel is at least 16" long it can remain a rifle even with a pistol grip. In NY you wouldn't be able to hunt with it as a handgun due to their 16" max, but anywhere else in the country you could. I don't see any way to convert that 18" action to a striker without wandering into NFA issues. As long as the whole gun is at leaat 26" long there are no issues as it can remain a rifle even with a pistol grip. You can attach a Contender pistol frame to your 21" carbine barrel and it would be a legal rifle as the total length will excede 26".
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Re: when does one become another
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12/30/2011 12:46 AM
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thats what I was looking for and thought myself thank you
Tyler
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