Has anybody messed with this round. Trying to build a gun legal for IL. This seems to be the top of the heap. I cant find out much about it. Thanks for any help

Thank You I found that one. Trying to find someone who has shot one. Thanks though.

Ken

Is that basically a straightened out .223 Rem?

How much more powder would that case hold over a 30 carbine??

30 carbine with a 110Gr Spire point or a 125 BT might do pretty good under 150 yds

Could do that in a 12" barrel too

444 trimmed to 1.4 and necked down. I can't find any other info on it with the exception of other people asking about it and not getting answers.

you can make it out of a 7mmbr also. Mighty IL gun laws.

What are the restrictions in IL? Is it case length? Does it have to be a "factory" chambering? Is there a min or max bore size or barrel length?

at least 30cal, 1.4"case length, 500ftlb, factory loaded so they can find info on internet. You Can also use straight wall. I would like to stay with rimless and bottle neck.

I know 300/221, 300 blackout will work. But I have a 7mmbr xp for donar. Wrong bolt and want to get all the ump I can.

How long is a WSSM case?

1.667 wssm, 7mm br 1.5 I think that is what read.

So, the bolt face is one of the determining factors...

The "factory" restriction really screws it up.

Its IL their laws are great. The factory restrictions make it a pain. Im driving Eric Wallace crazy.

Aren't the 30Bellm and 300 Whisper the only two , bottlenecked 30 cals. allowed.

Someone needs to keep him on his toes

That is correct.

I've yet to see a box of either on the shelves of any store....

My local gun store stocks Corbon & Hornady 300 Whisper ammo.

I saw 300 Blackout ammo for sale recently too which is the same thing.

What about the Bellm?

Trying to find any loading info. I found loading dies at CH4D but thats about it.

The only data I have found for the Contender is 28 grains of Reloader 7 and a 125 NBT. This is the "factory" load from CNC Cartridge, at about 2300 fps.

I'd have to ask Mike, we talked about it a while back but he's loaded me with so much info my brain locked up.

Glad someone else has that problem.

Started this IL gun thing and its turned in to a pain in the butt.

The 30 Bellm is really close to a 30BR that the benchrest guys are using for score shooting. I would look at those loads and work up from there.

I found a guy that shoots one. I think IM going to go the 30 BR route. Thanks for info rickiersrevenge.

I thought that Illinois had a limit on the case length. The br cases is 1.5xx and the limit is 1.4.

I finally got everything togeather for the Bellm. Its basically a 30BR cut down. Meant I was going to start with 30BR info.