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I am looking to getting into handgun hunting (for deer mostly), for cartirdges I was thinking either .357mag, .45 Long Colt, or .44mag. Now out of those rounds what one would you recomend? (I have shot some .45acp and a few .357mags in my day, so I am not experieanced). Would the recoil of the .44mag be to much for me to be accurate with? I am kinda thinking about getting a Ruger Blackhawk or SBH. Any other cartridge or pistol recomendations?
Oh and I am new to the forum and look forward to learning about pistol hunting. I am mostly an archery hunter so I am used to knowing my lethal range and keeping my shots well within that range. And I believe handgun hunting will present a whole new set of challenges. Thank you.
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01/30/2012 1:23 AM
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Hello and welcome, you will get all kinds of very useful info here.I see you are interested in the single actions, the 45 or the 44 are both good choices, ammo for the 44 will be easier to find. Practice a lot and have fun.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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01/30/2012 1:26 AM
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Welcome aboard. Do you load your own ammunition?
Rod, too.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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Welcome aboard. Do you load your own ammunition? No I dont. Wish I did though. I have been mostly an archery guy my whole life so I have never had the need to reload. Maybe in a few years I will start reloading. But who knows.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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If you do not reload, I would suggest a 44 Magnum just for the sake of ammo. You can shoot 44 specials in it for reduced loads and still kill a deer. The .357 is a nice chambering but not enough snuff for larger game animals, and the 45LC just doesn't get its due from the ammo makers, so if you can only have one.......get a 44.
I hate saying that...... ;-)
Rod, too.
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01/30/2012 1:48 AM
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Welcome to the site,you might consider a SBHH in 44 mag,if you desire to use an optic at some time they come with rings.
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Welcome to the site,you might consider a SBHH in 44 mag,if you desire to use an optic at some time they come with rings. With a Bisley handle ;-)
Rod, too.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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01/30/2012 2:16 AM
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I am looking to getting into handgun hunting (for deer mostly), for cartirdges I was thinking either .357mag, .45 Long Colt, or .44mag. Now out of those rounds what one would you recomend? (I have shot some .45acp and a few .357mags in my day, so I am not experieanced). Would the recoil of the .44mag be to much for me to be accurate with? I am kinda thinking about getting a Ruger Blackhawk or SBH. Any other cartridge or pistol recomendations?
Oh and I am new to the forum and look forward to learning about pistol hunting. I am mostly an archery hunter so I am used to knowing my lethal range and keeping my shots well within that range. And I believe handgun hunting will present a whole new set of challenges. Thank you.
sounds like we're in the same boat here!
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if you were an archery guy like i was forever:) i choose the .357 because i only take archery type shots and im very consistent with the .357. i just started handloading and its a WHOLE lot of fun. i killed a buck this year with my gp100 and was very pleased with the results.....BUT if you find you can shoot the 44 well, by all means go for it. im just a 357 fan, esp. since i only hunt coyotes, deer, turkey, and small feral hogs( im a meat hunter)
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I am looking to getting into handgun hunting (for deer mostly), for cartirdges I was thinking either .357mag, .45 Long Colt, or .44mag. Now out of those rounds what one would you recomend? (I have shot some .45acp and a few .357mags in my day, so I am not experieanced). Would the recoil of the .44mag be to much for me to be accurate with? I am kinda thinking about getting a Ruger Blackhawk or SBH. Any other cartridge or pistol recomendations?
Oh and I am new to the forum and look forward to learning about pistol hunting. I am mostly an archery hunter so I am used to knowing my lethal range and keeping my shots well within that range. And I believe handgun hunting will present a whole new set of challenges. Thank you.
Welcome aboard. Do you load your own ammunition? No I dont. Wish I did though. I have been mostly an archery guy my whole life so I have never had the need to reload. Maybe in a few years I will start reloading. But who knows. In that case I recommend the 357 mag until your are more experienced and then move up
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44 Bisley Blackhawk--and add from there
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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01/30/2012 3:34 AM
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope.
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01/30/2012 3:38 AM
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I was new this year too. Got a .44mag Super blackhawk hunter. you have gotten some good advice. Here are my thoughts.
Between a bisley and a regular SBHH...it's a preference thing which i personally think should be defined by feel rather than looks. I love the way my non-bisley rolls in my hand.
357, 44, 45 shouldn't matter if you are an archery hunter...i am too, i will hunt with iron sights and take shots i enjoy taking on game. The caliber doesn't make a difference here.
45 would be out if you do not handload imho
Don't let recoil scare you, you can learn shooting 44 special loads and work up to a 44 mag. The weight of these guns really helps to cut down on it.
The God who gave us such a beautiful land, wonderful game, and the sport of hunting is worth knowing.
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01/30/2012 3:41 AM
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope. Thank you Clayton, your experience is like most. Folks have a stigma about the mighty 44 and fear it. There is nothing to fear. If you can return your father-in-law's handshake, with authority, you can master the mighty 44.
Rod, too.
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope. Thank you Clayton, your experience is like most. Folks have a stigma about the mighty 44 and fear it. There is nothing to fear. If you can return your father-in-law's handshake, with authority, you can master the mighty 44. Well said. My son started hunting with the bisley hunter last year; shoot'n full house loads; and he's only 14...a little feller,at that.
It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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01/31/2012 3:28 PM
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope. I hear you Clayton. When I bought my Model 29 and before I ever pulled the trigger I thought I was going to have to pick my self off the ground. I had read too much hype in the magazines. The first time I shot it was with factory ammo and it wasn't bad. No where near what people had been saying about it. I think just about anyone can learn to manage the recoil. There was a group of us at the shooting range shooting it. One girl was a little snip of a thing that went about 5'4" and weighed about 110. She had it and went bam, bam, bam, "this ain't bad", bam, bam, bam.
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01/31/2012 3:35 PM
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Don't overlook the 41 Magnum either. It's kind of midway between the 357 and 44 and will be easier to find hunting ammo for than a 45 Colt.
You can't wait any longer. Join the NRA and start writing your Congressmen and Senators.
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Gary,
Now you have done it!!! Opened the door to discuss my favorite caliber. I have several 41s and have used them a lot. This one has no flies on it, IMHO. It is often overlooked. However, using factory ammo, the choice of loads is not as great as with a 44.
Possibly the greatest benefit of shooting a 41 is that most do not. Thus, it has certain "snob appeal" to old codgers like me. LOL
It's more important where you hit 'em, than what you hit 'em with.
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01/31/2012 4:46 PM
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In the past week I have heard to 45LC refered to in that manner, and now the 41. I guess that makes me a supersnob for having both and no 44 ;-) What else can we add to the list to get all "snobby" about? 
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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01/31/2012 4:56 PM
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope. Thank you Clayton, your experience is like most. Folks have a stigma about the mighty 44 and fear it. There is nothing to fear. If you can return your father-in-law's handshake, with authority, you can master the mighty 44. Well said. My son started hunting with the bisley hunter last year; shoot'n full house loads; and he's only 14...a little feller,at that. Well since your son can handle the 44 I am pretty sure I could. I think I might end up going with a 44mag and practice up with it. Should be a real deer killer.
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01/31/2012 6:03 PM
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I got a 44 last year, before that the only handguns I had shot were .22, .357, 9mm, .40, .45 acp
I don't find the 44 unpleasant to shoot even with a 300 grain at 1300 fps. When I first started shooting I was nervous and shook bad but once I realized there was nothing to it I calmed down and started shooting fairly well, still improving.
I shoot a Ruger super redhawk, 9.5" barrel, 2x scope. Thank you Clayton, your experience is like most. Folks have a stigma about the mighty 44 and fear it. There is nothing to fear. If you can return your father-in-law's handshake, with authority, you can master the mighty 44. Well said. My son started hunting with the bisley hunter last year; shoot'n full house loads; and he's only 14...a little feller,at that. Well since your son can handle the 44 I am pretty sure I could. I think I might end up going with a 44mag and practice up with it. Should be a real deer killer. I'm sure you'll do fine with it.
It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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44 is a good choice. One thing I will say about recoil. Anyone can shoot a 44, and it isn't as bad as it is made out to be. But....there is a difference between handling the recoil, and being able to shoot it well.
Anyone can send a few down range, but to really zero in, and place your shots consistantly, you can't be thinking about what will happen after you pull the trigger. And once those thoughts and habbits set in, they can be VERY hard to get rid of.
Might want to start with specials, is all I'm sayin...
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Since your pretty new to the sport and you dont handload my call is gonna be the 357 maggie. Its recoil is pretty mild but its power is well known. Since your used to keeping your shots inside of bow range I think you will be ok with the 357 until you get more experience. If you can afford it I would recommend a Ruger single six in 22 and shoot the H E double hockey sticks out of it and perfect your form. You can hunt small game that way in the off seasons and get experience that way too. A good condition used Blackhawk in 357 shouldnt break the bank and if you go used on both guns you will be well armed for a beginner.
Do not take your greatness to the graveyard!!
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I see some speak of the "41" and it not being as popular. Would this make that particular caliber more or less pricey than a 357mag. or 44mag.?
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Would this make that particular caliber more or less pricey than a 357mag. or 44mag.? When it comes to a new run of new guns it usually doesn't make any difference in price if on the same frame. But in the used market, because there will be less 41's made, they may fetch a higher price.
Rod, too.
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It makes ammo less available
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The 41 Mag is a fine bullet. There are two reasons I wouldnt choose it for someone just getting into this sport.
1: Like Clayton said ammo availability. Most of the time your local department store sporting goods section isnt going to have it on hand. Localy if I want a ready supply of it I dont have to make myself I have to drive 60 miles round trip to get it.
2: There is no 41 special. With the 357 you can shoot 38 special thru the same gun and get good practice thats afordable, low recoil and accurate. Likewise the 44 mag has the 44 spl.
Do not take your greatness to the graveyard!!
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I would go with the .44mag in SBHH because if you shoot open sights you have the option of changing out the front sight and if you want a scope or red dot it comes with rings!
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I was in your shoes not too long ago, considered the 41 and the 45...nothing wrong with them, but until i get up and going with reloading i felt the 44 would be the way to go.
Jsjmag definitely has offered a good suggestion.
The God who gave us such a beautiful land, wonderful game, and the sport of hunting is worth knowing.
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If you are really serious about it my advice is this: Go buy a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter in 44 Magnum. Experiment with as many suitable hunting loads as your wallet can stand. Get comfortable with the revolver and practice a lot.
My favorites are the 45 Colt and the 475 Linebaugh. If you get into handgun hunting enough you will probably expand your collection later.
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im just like you and i just bought a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter in 44 Magnum with a scope its a gr8 gun you will love it
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If you are really serious about it my advice is this: Go buy a Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter in 44 Magnum. Experiment with as many suitable hunting loads as your wallet can stand. Get comfortable with the revolver and practice a lot.
My favorites are the 45 Colt and the 475 Linebaugh. If you get into handgun hunting enough you will probably expand your collection later.
I was kinda thinking about taking the advice of Tracker77 and getting a Ruger Single Six and really running a ton of rounds through it to really get familar with the single action revolver. And then save up money for the SBHH while I am practicing with the Single Six. I think that might be my best way to go about this at this point and time cause I just bought a new bow and dont have enough cash for the SBHH.
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Single six wouldn't be a bad start at all. Especially if you get the hunter model as it is very similar to the SBHH.
The God who gave us such a beautiful land, wonderful game, and the sport of hunting is worth knowing.
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Only problem is they cost as much as a SBHH :-)
The God who gave us such a beautiful land, wonderful game, and the sport of hunting is worth knowing.
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That's a good idea, my first handgun was the Ruger Single Six .22/.22mag and now some 34 years later I still shoot it.
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Only problem is they cost as much as a SBHH :-) Well where I am at the cost differance is $250 give or take.
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JMHO-- if you plan on shooting a 44 or a 45 --a 22lr will help with trigger pull and such -- but it you want real range time get a 38 or a 357 and shoot some 158's out of it-- the reoil is not bad you get a real BOOM! and the cost is not excessive--At the end of the day you wind up a better shooter --I think you need just a bit of recoil to get thing rolling right--it is a big jump for a 22lr to a 44 mag--
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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it is a big jump for a 22lr to a 44 mag One could shoot specials to get indoctrinated, but 44 special ammo ain't cheap. I would suggest a Lee Aniversary kit and learn to roll 'em. Work up to max and learn a lot along the way. A $100 bill well spent.
Rod, too.
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The 44 Spl would work great-- 180 cast bullet and a light charge of Unique-- perfect-- maybe even better than the 38-357
If it jams force it! If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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Re: Just getting started, need some advice.
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Man I got so many options it is hard to decide.
I have a gun store near by that has a Ruger SBHH for $608, is that a pretty good price for one?
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