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Do any of you guys have an idea where i can find these. I've got only one box left and i can't find them anywhere.
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03/26/2012 10:31 PM
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I have talked to Speer several times over the last year and a half and they have NO plans to make them at this point. They say that there is not enough demand.
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03/26/2012 10:44 PM
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Thanks Franchise,i had a feeling something was up when i couldn't find them anywhere.
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I would like to use the bullet in my 475/350 Mag. It's seems to be a really tough bullet. But, it doesn't look like I'll be able to do any testing.
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03/27/2012 1:07 AM
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They are a tough bullet,have a better BC than the XTP, .242 speer vs .182 XTP,and they're very accurate out of my gun.
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03/27/2012 1:20 AM
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Wheelguns, It will be a damm shame if Speer stops making their 325gr and 400gr JFP bullets in .475 caliber because like you they are accurate in my guns....
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Re: 400gr. Speer for .475 lin.
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03/27/2012 3:44 AM
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didn't the deep curl replace the old soft points? or do they have a 400gr deep curl?
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03/27/2012 11:21 AM
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didn't the deep curl replace the old soft points? or do they have a 400gr deep curl? That's what I thought.....
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03/27/2012 2:39 PM
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From what i understand for that particular bullet, it was just a name change.
I believe for the most part Deep Curl refers to there handgun hunting line of bullets. Not all bullets had a change in structure. Don't quote me on that.
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03/27/2012 3:25 PM
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I've never seen the 400 deecurl's and when I sent speer an email about them I got sort of a dumbass answer. Gary: bullets have, of late, hit the store/outlet and gone to a basement. Get them on-order with your dealer # 3976 is applicable to the 400 gr and # 4661 to the 270 gr.
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What the heck does that even mean? I think this guy is full of it. The 270 he's referring to is for the .44
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03/27/2012 4:55 PM
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I will have to actually look at my LGS. Most of the time I don't, and I also don't know of anybody who shoots them. How much are they normally in case I find some new old stock stuff?
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03/27/2012 5:24 PM
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Just an FYI, the Deep Curl is the same bullet as the Gold Dot Hunting bullet. Just a marketing change according to Speer.
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Re: 400gr. Speer for .475 lin.
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03/27/2012 6:46 PM
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IMHO, part of the low demand is due to the instructions in Speer's reloading information that the 400 gr is intended for the Linebaugh, and is too tough to expand at 480 Ruger velocities. I think a lot of 480 guys decided why pay for a non-expanding jacketed bullet when you can have lead!
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03/30/2012 12:56 AM
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Just went to the Speer web and they list in .475 cal. 275gr., 400gr. and 325gr. bullets. The 275gr was not recommended for the Linebaugh, the other two were recommended for both the 480 Ruger and the 475 Linebaugh.
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03/30/2012 1:54 AM
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The problem is that Speer still lists them on their web site, but will not at least they have not had a production run of the 400 gr.'s in approx. 2 years. It's a real shame.
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03/30/2012 4:14 PM
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I'm not an owner of a 475 Linebaugh
(yet  ) , but I would think that 400 gr flat point would be the ticket...
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04/03/2012 1:57 PM
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really?
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04/03/2012 2:42 PM
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really? Very good question.
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really? Very good question. Ok, archery hunters, would you shoot an animal with a steel blunt or a broad head? Same initial diameter without the blades. Wound cavity means a lot when we are trying to make a quick kill.
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04/03/2012 3:29 PM
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I killed a lot of critters with my .475, and I can tell you that it needs no help at the diameter it is. I used a bullet that 430man designed that runs a meplat about 80-percent. It leaves a very large wound channel through and through. Alas, I no longer own a .475......sniffle......
I probably should get another......sniffle.....
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04/03/2012 4:27 PM
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I probably should get another......sniffle..... And digress? Methinks .500 trumps .475 
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04/03/2012 5:50 PM
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I probably should get another......sniffle..... And digress? Methinks .500 trumps .475 Oh, it certainly does, but that doesn't mean that I don't want another! Gives me an excuse to get another gun!
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04/03/2012 6:39 PM
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really? Because 1" is better than a half inch. 
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really? Because 1" is better than a half inch. Not if it only travels 6-inches -- LOL! 
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yeah, but outta gary's guns it certainly travels much much more than that!
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If I "Ever Get" my 475/350 Mag barrel I think that velocity will play a role in penetration, epecialy with 500 gr. bullets.LOL
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yeah, but outta gary's guns it certainly travels much much more than that! Haha!
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I killed a lot of critters with my .475, and I can tell you that it needs no help at the diameter it is. I used a bullet that 430man designed that runs a meplat about 80-percent. It leaves a very large wound channel through and through. Alas, I no longer own a .475......sniffle......
I probably should get another......sniffle..... you big baby, just get another one!
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Problem is that I keep buying .50 cals!
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Problem is that I keep buying .50 cals! It has been said that everybody needs a smaller caliber gun for plinking....you know, something to just punch paper with.....go ahead and get the .475 for those times when you don't want to beat yourself up with recoil..... 
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Problem is that I keep buying .50 cals! It has been said that everybody needs a smaller caliber gun for plinking....you know, something to just punch paper with.....go ahead and get the .475 for those times when you don't want to beat yourself up with recoil..... Haha! .475 for plinking! LOL!
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At 0.475" initial diameter, why is expansion an issue? Really? Because 1" is better than a half inch. Depends on how you use your 1"; it may not be. Still, in all honesty, expansion on these diameter bullets just is not a necessity, they are pre-expanded.
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Because 1" is better than a half inch.
Gary, Well said....
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Because 1" is better than a half inch.
Gary, Well said.... I guess behind the fence, size really doesn't matter.
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Interesting string...MS Hitman, I wonder why Doc chose to use a Barnes X-bullet on his Brown Bear? I guess he thought the 500 cal wasn't pre-expanded. Or maybe he wanted to "stunt hunt" until he got to the cast later in his cylinder. Yeah, that's probably it...
There's an application for all bullets and types - the only absolute is your ability to irritate. Take that crap back to AR.
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Handgun Elk Hunt Here is a story of a high-fence elk hunt where the author seems very pleased with the performance of the 400 grain Speer bullets. He states: My second shot broke her left rear leg and we recovered the bullet in the right shoulder under the hide. That's penetration measured in feet! A portion of the jacket had been torn away, but the bullet performed well.
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Interesting string...MS Hitman, I wonder why Doc chose to use a Barnes X-bullet on his Brown Bear? I guess he thought the 500 cal wasn't pre-expanded. Or maybe he wanted to "stunt hunt" until he got to the cast later in his cylinder. Yeah, that's probably it...
There's an application for all bullets and types - the only absolute is your ability to irritate. Take that crap back to AR. And he chose hardcasts for his rhino! LOL!
There is a place for both. Let's not fight about it.
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Let's not fight about it.
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