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Finally did it! #106548 04/13/2012 5:07 AM
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I've been talking about the 458 Lott for a while and I had a customer interested so this is where it's at so far. I'm waiting to see if he'll want to make any changes but I mocked it up with the scope and bipod. The barrel is a Bergara rifle barrel cut back to 17" and the 1" radial brake installed. I will be test firing this weekend to see how it performs and if it will make the cut. I'm expecting performance with the 350gr bullet to be around 2600-2700fps. The cartridge on the left is a 458 Win with a 350gr Hot Cor and the other is the Lott with a 500gr Hornady. I plan to fire one or two of the 500's but I don't think I'd want to make a regular practice of it.

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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106551 04/13/2012 6:34 AM
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You sir, are a glutton for punishment ;-)


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106553 04/13/2012 7:08 AM
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Sounds like Rod is looking to redefine the term "punishing recoil"

Ouch, it hurts my wrists just thinking about it.

Re: Finally did it! [Re: s4s4u] #106555 04/13/2012 7:12 AM
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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
You sir, are a glutton for punishment ;-)


Actually my own will be worse, I'm waiting on the welding shop to do some minor filling work for me on a 45-70 pistol barrel which is considerably lighter. Once I get it back it will get rechambered but I don't plan on shooting it much, the Win is more fun than mortal man should have so I'm sure the lightweight Lott will be an adventure.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106556 04/13/2012 10:49 AM
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That looks alot like my 35 Rem.

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That, I think, ah it's just fine looking at. Nice barrel work. There might be a few more rings in order though.

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Rings on the scope? Oh, I thought you meant more rings on the end of the muzzle break!!!!!


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106567 04/13/2012 3:14 PM
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I likes it!!!

Not meaning to hijack your thread but what do you think of the .376 Steyr in an Encore?


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: WyoJoe] #106570 04/13/2012 4:34 PM
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And I thought the .444 you're doing for me was stout. Hope your calcium level is up to par--bone strength seems in order here.
Maybe I'll have you do my .45-70 into a Lott, although I'm waiting to see if your hands break off first.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: JCosmoAsp] #106575 04/13/2012 7:14 PM
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LOL! Joe there are at least a couple guys that have the Steyr in the Encore and they really seem to like it. I can't speak from experience as I have not chambered for it yet or shot one.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: JCosmoAsp] #106578 04/13/2012 10:46 PM
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Well I just got back from test firing, the weather was marginal so I didn't take the chrono but it will go through a second line of testing. I once read an article on the 500 Max by John Taffin and he said it made him "physically ill". I could never understand that until today. The 458 Winchester loads weren't bad at all and the mid range Lott loads with the 350gr bullets weren't too terrible but when you step up to a full house 500gr it's a different world. I have never in my life been backed up by handgun until today and that 500 did it. Just doing the math this bullet should be going around 2000-2100fps and you feel it. The concussion alone gave me a massive headache which I'm still recovering from and that was with my ear protection. I actually felt sick to my stomach after about 10rds. I'm am rethinking the factory pistol barrel rechambering but knowing me it will be something I'll have to do. This pistol gives up nothing to a 458 Win mag rifle. Although I haven't done any accuracy testing yet I'm sure it will shoot good. I will probably continue to do these rechamberings in the future but I'm also thinking of contacting MGM about purchasing their heavy taper barrels unchambered. I have three cartridges bigger than the Lott I want to experiment with but those will be a surprise whenever I get around to them. I do know one thing, being aware that the brake I installed is cutting recoil roughly in half I couldn't imagine shooting one without a brake like that idiot with the 600NE.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106582 04/14/2012 12:04 AM
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Have at it my friend...I am recoil sensitive!
Not for me.


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except for your 375 CheyTac but I'm guessing there is a little more weight there and the big shark gill brakes do seem to take a little more sting out.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106584 04/14/2012 4:14 AM
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Maybe a test subject should be in your near future. Your previous injuries won't put up with that kind of abuse for long.

Re: Finally did it! [Re: rlb] #106585 04/14/2012 4:31 AM
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I'd like to find some little gangbanger to shoot it one handed sideways
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it would decapitate the sucker.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106592 04/14/2012 10:59 AM
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About the physically sick from the concusion. Thats why our military developed their sound cannons as crowd control. They actually used them in Pittsburg a few years ago when they held the G8 summit there. I guess the little anarchists got out of control so they put it to use. Aparently it wasn;t as effective as the newer model they now have.
Did you video tape the test firing? hat would be a neat thing to see here.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: cfish2] #106614 04/14/2012 9:09 PM
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didn't tape it, with the weather being marginal I just concenrated on the functioning of the barrel but if it works out next time I will.


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106622 04/14/2012 11:04 PM
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 Quote:
next time I will


Better bring the Dramamine ;-)


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Re: Finally did it! [Re: wapitirod] #106627 04/15/2012 1:33 AM
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Yes, most definitely!
 Originally Posted By: wapitirod
except for your 375 CheyTac but I'm guessing there is a little more weight there and the big shark gill brakes do seem to take a little more sting out.


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In a word, "NICE!"


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Very nice work.

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GOOD LORD!!!


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Rod,
I think you should go a small step before the 600NE and go with a 500NE. Would be a good start for your new test subject.
;\)

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wow, hope your wrist holds up.

Re: Finally did it! [Re: tradmark] #106759 04/17/2012 9:14 PM
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Actually the 500 is one that's on the board but it may be a little while as I have alot of work to catch up on. As far as the wrist goes it's doing ok but as I've pointed out before, half of the nerves and three bones have already been removed. I need to talk to the people at Ransom and see if they think my rest will handle these big Encores if I get their grip adapter. I'm not sure if it will without modification because the big bore 5 shots I'm doing will max the rest out and hit the stop hard.


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That ought to be a fun experience ,at least for the first round.


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 Originally Posted By: Dave Tarbell
That ought to be a fun experience ,at least for the first round.


Famous last words ;-)


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I have GOT to shoot one of those!!!

Can we quit tip-toeing around the subject here, and lets just get to the nuts and bolts...

...Rod, make one out of a 50BMG and let us know what happens!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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Thought about but figured it would excede the limits of the frame
;\)
That would be an interesting thing to touch off, once! The cartridges I'm looking at playing with are the 470NE, 470 Capstick (I just saw one in Bellms shop that MGM built), and the 500NE. There are others like the 505Gibbs and the like but those three interest me the most. For those not familiar with the Capstick it's a Lott blown out to .475. If I wanted to repeat what that one guy did with the 600NE first I would install a brake and second I'd have to get a permit from ATF to build it since .510 is the max legal cal in a handgun.


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