6.5x55 for the Encore?
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Alright, so here is a question - I am looking for a new barrel, for accuracy, mild recoil and decent hunting ability, and have been finding myself dreaming of the Swede... not a bikini model, but that venerable cartridge which started the 6.5 craze so many years back. I feel it has lots going for it... mild recoil, decent accuarcy and great sectional density in the bullet choices. I have also found that Lee makes a classic loader for that calibre, making the whole thing backpack ready. Now to the question, has anyone else used the 6.5x55 in an Encore, Contender or other single-shot, and if so, what was your feelings towards it?
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Re: 6.5x55 for the Encore?
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05/03/2012 1:53 PM
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Wayland, Nothing wrong with the 6.5x55 Swede in a Encore. Realistically, you will get about as much performance out of a 15" with the 6.5x47 Lapua. Less recoil, with about the same MV.
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Re: 6.5x55 for the Encore?
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05/03/2012 2:23 PM
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I have a 6.5x55 in the FA single shot. I experienced some issues with the case setting back (and making it difficult to open the action). This round has some slope to the case. Bob Baker reamed mine out to 6.5x55AI. No more set-back problems.
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05/03/2012 3:16 PM
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wtroper,
I think EABCO did the same thing with their 6.5 BRM - they changed their slope as well.
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05/03/2012 3:30 PM
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Yep, that is another reason I am not a fan of the standard Swede case.
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05/06/2012 11:23 PM
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I have an FA in 6.5, never had a problem with case setback.
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The thing I like about the Swede is also ammo availability. In another post, a shooter makes a good point for the 30-30 and one of the reasons was ammo availability. While I'm not saying that the 6.5x55 is as available as the 30-30, I know that many well stocked gun shops carry at least one box of 6.5x55 Federal or Hornady... and that may come in handy some day. Ernie has it right though, I do like the numbers for the 6.5x47, but ammo is a LOT harder to come by if I had to get it fast.
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Re: 6.5x55 for the Encore?
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05/07/2012 2:34 PM
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Also, without having run one through a chrony, what are the numbers for a 6.5x47 lapua in an Encore... the Swede also if you have the numbers? Poeple always have a formula for that sort of thin, but I have found certain cartidges bunk those formulas when it comes to smaller barrels (i.e. the WSMs) I am a big fan of efficient cartridges and would like to know that as well, as I would rather have a better cartidge that doesn't waste powder.
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15" barrel with the 123 A-Max has a MV of 2715 fps, while a friend of mine has a 2736 MV with his. Another friend has a 16" tube and he is getting 2850 with the 120 grain NBT. Do you reload?
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05/08/2012 9:00 PM
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Wayland,
While I admit that I have not given the 6.5x55 AI a fair chance yet, I would recommend that you give consideration to the 260 Rem. One reason that I have not spent the time to develop a "good load" for the AI is that I also have a 260 bbl for that FA frame. The 260 bbl shoots so accurately with factory loads that I have not needed to work with the 6.5x55 AI. I also expect them to be "two peas in a pod" ballistically.
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05/09/2012 5:25 AM
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Have you looked at the 6.5 JDJ?
It has boatloads of history in the Contender; chambering an Encore for it would obviously not be an issue; plus I could add tons more history RE: HHI Antelope Hunt. Unless you are new to handgun hunting, I am sure you have heard of this cartridge. The fact it is a Contender cartridge is a huge plus in terms of size and weight savings.
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Ernie,
I do for some of my stuff, mostly rifles, but I defintly would for the 6.5x55, Lee has a classic loader that I like - I used one for the 45-70 barrel I had and loved it. I got great groups with that simple loader and hope to do the same with the next barrel. I prefer heavy bullets, so would probably go with the 140s, so I'm thinking I could probably expect them to run in the high 2400s or low 2500s?
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wtroper,
I'll look at the numbers. I have a friedn that has a 260 in a Remington 700 rifle and he loves it better than his 270. Thanks for the heads up.
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That is about where it will be, maybe a tad higher. The MV's you give is about what a 6.5x47L should do with 140's. All three of the 6.5's mentioned are going to do about the same. With 140's you should see a slight edge to the 260 Rem and Swede over the 6.5x47L. I typically drop velocity 100 fps per adding 10 grains of bullet weight. Ernie, I do for some of my stuff, mostly rifles, but I definitely would for the 6.5x55, Lee has a classic loader that I like - I used one for the 45-70 barrel I had and loved it. I got great groups with that simple loader and hope to do the same with the next barrel. I prefer heavy bullets, so would probably go with the 140s, so I'm thinking I could probably expect them to run in the high 2400s or low 2500s?
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As Gregg suggested, the 6.5 JDJ is very good in a contender. I would not like to be without one (I have 2). I personally prefer the contender frame over the encore due to the reduced size & bulk of the contender.
However, in a contender you will never get the 6.5 JDJ to provide the velocity that you can get from the 6.5x55 or 260 in an encore or other strong frame. I would expect it to be around 100 fps slower with 120s than the others will do with 140s. The more important question, however, maybe "do you need the extra velocity?" The old 6.5 JDJ has proven itself over & over in various countries and on many animals. It does more than the ballistics suggest that it should. It shoots very well, recoils lightly and hits hard.
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Alright, so here is a question - I am looking for a new barrel, for accuracy, mild recoil and decent hunting ability, and have been finding myself dreaming of the Swede... not a bikini model....... Now to the question, has anyone else used the 6.5x55 in an Encore, Contender or other single-shot, and if so, what was your feelings towards it? As Gregg suggested, the 6.5 JDJ is very good in a contender. I would not like to be without one (I have 2). I personally prefer the contender frame over the encore due to the reduced size & bulk of the contender.
However, in a contender you will never get the 6.5 JDJ to provide the velocity that you can get from the 6.5x55 or 260 in an encore or other strong frame. I would expect it to be around 100 fps slower with 120s than the others will do with 140s. The more important question, however, maybe "do you need the extra velocity?" The old 6.5 JDJ has proven itself over & over in various countries and on many animals. It does more than the ballistics suggest that it should. It shoots very well, recoils lightly and hits hard. OK, so maybe he hasn't heard of it; no matter as WTROPER is right on; the 6.5 JDJ is in a class of it's own. However, the initial question DOES ask about the performance of the 6.5 caliber in an ENCORE also. Since case capacity is similar, the 6.5 JDJ, if loaded to ENCORE PRESSURES, would be right up there with all of them, without the downfall of the undesirable tapered (downslope) case. Not saying to do that, just that may as well compare apples to apples. But on it's own, the 6.5 JDJ in the Contender may be all that he needs, judging by his initial post. And the fact that it is lighter and more compact than the Encore package, all the better. Not to mention the superiority of the parent case (.225 Win.) JMHO
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I absolutely love my 6.5JDJ, It has harvested more deer then I can remember. I have taken deer at 365 yards with 120 gr ballistic tips. Dropped right where it stood. Granyed the deer was an eastern NC deer that weighed in at 125lbs, the bullet performed magnificently. And I agree the contender frame is my favorite as it is lighter and less bulky.
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I have an EABCO barrel in .260 Rem, it is similar to the Swede and shoots great with most any Sierra bullet, it doesn't shoot Hornady bullets to well and for powder I have used Varget, H4350, H4831SC
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