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05/03/2012 1:57 PM
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I have a 357mag 6" smtih. Looking at reloading some and wondering about the 180gr for hunting and running them about 1150ft/sec. just whitetail say 50-75yrds. I see there is some 200 grs also. any body got any suggestion. Also looking to order some 300gr or 275gr for my 44mag 6 1/2 smith. Does have a leo on it and plan to hunt deer and bear. I also like to shoot out to 100 to 150 yrds with it. Will you loose a lot of penatration with the 275gr out to 125yrds. will the difference in speed make up for the weight of the 300gr at say 1200ft/sec. and the 275gr at 1300ft/sec. Any ideas will help thanks
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
[Re: gene]
#107861
05/03/2012 3:03 PM
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I can't comment on the .357 as I haven't loaded up any heavy cast in quite awhile.
With the .44, I like the heavier bullets. 300-320gr I think is where the 44mag really shines. Of the two loads you suggested I would go with the 300@1200. While both have nearly identical energy and the 275 will shoot just a bit flatter (~1.2"), the Taylor KO number on the 300 is just a tad better.
For deer sized game either will work as the two are very close ballistically. With bear added to the mix, I would stick with the heavier bullet.
That being said, I don't think you want to feed your Smith a steady diet of those 300 grainers with full hunting charges behind them. The Smiths, while great guns have been known to get a little loose after getting hammered with full house loads for awhile.
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
[Re: 98Redline]
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05/03/2012 3:50 PM
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The only thing I would be worried about is just them chambering in your cylinder. Point in fact, I have a 190gr Ranch Dog mold that I bought for my 357 Max, the bullets will not seat properly in my 357 Mag Contender…
Speaking of Ranch Dogs, they have a 175gr bullet that was specifically designed for the 357 Mag. If you don’t cast there is a company that does for Ranch Dog… FWIW…
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
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#107871
05/03/2012 3:53 PM
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I loaded some 180's for my wife to use as a back up gun since bears are common where I live but that was only to allow penetration for awkward angles. For deer I think you might want to consider a premium expanding bullet. The 180gr Partition is my favorite if you can find them but something along those lines might serve you better. JMHO
I also agree on the S&W, I've heard some guys say they haven't had any problems but I've seen other guns rattle themselves loose or flat out break. The cylinder locking mechanism is the main weak point.
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
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05/04/2012 3:24 AM
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I shoot the 180 cast performance in my blackhawk and they are very accurate. They will definately drop a deer.
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
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05/04/2012 11:10 AM
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I have a box of the 180s but haven't shot any game with them. I have used a number of other calibers and weights, and am very happy with their accuracy and performance on game.
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
[Re: Whitworth]
#107952
05/04/2012 11:19 AM
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My next hog hunting trip to fl I'm going to use the 357 with the 180s!I need to get ahold of this video I saw a few years ago. The guide I use down in Fl made a video and on the video is this rather large Cuban man hunting with a snubby 38 with +Ps. He walks up to a hog that the dogs just got called off and gets about 25 feet away when he shoots(chicken little). He wounds it on the first shot and the thing makes a bee line for him. He turns and runs all the while screaming and shooting over his shoulder. The guide shoots the hog with a 12ga. The camera man turns and keeps filming that guy as he runs about 50 yards and has to stop cause hes worn out. My buddy and I were staying in the guides trailer in the woods that night and we sat and watched that over and over laughing our backsides off. I never laughed so hard in my life.
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
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05/04/2012 11:40 AM
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My next hog hunting trip to fl I'm going to use the 357 with the 180s!I need to get ahold of this video I saw a few years ago. The guide I use down in Fl made a video and on the video is this rather large Cuban man hunting with a snubby 38 with +Ps. He walks up to a hog that the dogs just got called off and gets about 25 feet away when he shoots(chicken little). He wounds it on the first shot and the thing makes a bee line for him. He turns and runs all the while screaming and shooting over his shoulder. The guide shoots the hog with a 12ga. The camera man turns and keeps filming that guy as he runs about 50 yards and has to stop cause hes worn out. My buddy and I were staying in the guides trailer in the woods that night and we sat and watched that over and over laughing our backsides off. I never laughed so hard in my life. Would have loved to have seen that! Haha!
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Re: Cast Performance bullets
[Re: Whitworth]
#107959
05/04/2012 12:33 PM
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I load the LYMAN 358429 at slower velocities than what your are looking for and haven't recovered one from a deer yet.
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