cleaning your wheelguns
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06/20/2012 12:23 AM
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What do you use to clean the trigger mechanism of your wheelguns? I use Breakfree CLP in the aerosol can. Thanks in advance folks.
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/20/2012 2:10 AM
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you don't want to use the CLP you would be better of using the breakfree powder blaster but if you want a cheaper but smellier way to go use NON Chlorinated brake cleaner from wal mart or a parts store. A revolver dosn't need lubrication on the action and it will actually cause you more problems than anything by attracting gun and causing a build up. The only lubrication I use on revolvers is a small dab of gun grease on the both ends of the cylinder where it contacts the frame. This is more to help with providing a cushion during recoil than lubrication to turn. If you don't have any gun grease you can use a drop of gun oil. The only other thing I do is I'll wipe the base pin down on SA's with a little oil on a rag to leave a light film on the pin. I will also wipe the exterior of the gun down with a lightly oiled rag but then I go back over it with a clean rag so there is no excess oil left behind.
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/21/2012 7:31 PM
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How often do you guys clean the trigger mechanism?
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/21/2012 7:58 PM
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On my SA's if I just run a cylinder through them or during hunting season I don't clean them unless I have a good reason. I normally clean after every range outing I'd say 3 or 4 cylinders or more. If shot numbers are on the lower end I'll just run a bore snake through it and the chambers on the high end I used Tornado and Bronze brushes and do thorough cleaning. Regardless though I'll always "hose" out the internals with the brake clean by spraying it through the frame openings and the brake clean also helps with the use of a brush to remove the carbon build up around the frame window. I personally will take down my revolvers at least once a year but it's not necessary if everything is working well and you have over lubricated it to where you have a serious internal build up or dropped it in the sand or mud.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. John Wayne-The Shootist
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/21/2012 8:01 PM
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You mean you're supposed to clean them?
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/22/2012 12:38 AM
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Hey Rod, how about WD 40 or Mechanics Choice?
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/22/2012 2:03 AM
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Rod, too.
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06/22/2012 3:15 AM
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stay away from any lubricant but wd can actually draw moisture as well as crud.
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06/22/2012 1:56 PM
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Use WD-40 cans for targets! I use STP on the cylinder ratchet, pin and front bushing. The action needs very little oil but dry is wear. Metal to metal will shorten life. Use oil sparingly but you need some lube.
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06/22/2012 6:06 PM
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I cleaned the factory Redhawk by breaking it down and used hot soapy water and MP-7. Blew it off with air and lubricated with CLP. Now the DA trigger pull is light and smooth. Better than the S&W.
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06/23/2012 4:32 AM
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Use WD-40 cans for targets! I use STP on the cylinder ratchet, pin and front bushing. The action needs very little oil but dry is wear. Metal to metal will shorten life. Use oil sparingly but you need some lube.
correct to a point, eventually it will wear down to a polished and correct fit which is the long way of doing what I do on a polishing wheel. When my sear engagements are taken to a high polish you don't need anything and they would take millions of rounds to wear out. Brownells does sell a semi permanent dry lube for actions, I can't recall the name but I bought some but have yet to try it out. It leaves a dry hard slick film that will only come off with alot of wear or harsh chemicals. I haven't really seen a need for it on my SA's since I polish the sears to a mirror finish anyways. I'm of the school of thought that wear on a factory sear is a good thing since it means the parts will wear together creating a better fit but I've not seen any gain in function from oiling an action. It's like having a crankshaft with a bad journal, you can put new bearings in and even though it's lubricated constanly it's just going to wear out the bearing anyways until that journal is polished, unfortunately unlike a sear though it will eat it's mating surface instead of wearing itself smooth. The stp will work fine on the ratchet and gas ring though.
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/23/2012 1:55 PM
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Use WD-40 cans for targets! I use STP on the cylinder ratchet, pin and front bushing. The action needs very little oil but dry is wear. Metal to metal will shorten life. Use oil sparingly but you need some lube.
correct to a point, eventually it will wear down to a polished and correct fit which is the long way of doing what I do on a polishing wheel. When my sear engagements are taken to a high polish you don't need anything and they would take millions of rounds to wear out. Brownells does sell a semi permanent dry lube for actions, I can't recall the name but I bought some but have yet to try it out. It leaves a dry hard slick film that will only come off with alot of wear or harsh chemicals. I haven't really seen a need for it on my SA's since I polish the sears to a mirror finish anyways. I'm of the school of thought that wear on a factory sear is a good thing since it means the parts will wear together creating a better fit but I've not seen any gain in function from oiling an action. It's like having a crankshaft with a bad journal, you can put new bearings in and even though it's lubricated constanly it's just going to wear out the bearing anyways until that journal is polished, unfortunately unlike a sear though it will eat it's mating surface instead of wearing itself smooth. The stp will work fine on the ratchet and gas ring though. It is Action Lube Plus. I use a tad on the sear. It is the pins, pivot points that should have a little lube and the rebound slide on the S&W. I polish them but a tad of good oil makes function smoother even though they will never wear out. The hammer pin might take the most force so a drop is good. Some lube is for smooth, some for wear. There was a lot of trouble with parts galling long ago because the same steels were used for parts. Special lubes were made but it was found changing steels from part to part stopped galling. A drop of lube can never be called a bad thing. You are correct for one point. The higher the polish, the less lube will be held to the metal. I love STP, it clings, creeps, cushions and helps prevent cylinder pin carbon stiffness. It works like a champ on a cap and ball revolver too. I swear RCBS case lube is STP!
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/23/2012 2:11 PM
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I swear RCBS case lube is STP! Bullberry thinks the same thing... I actually use STP to lube my cases... LOL
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06/23/2012 8:52 PM
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Great, and I went out and bought some MOBILE ONE.
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06/24/2012 1:20 AM
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I use Mobile one on my ARs. A bunch of guys I shoot 3 gun matches with are all active duty special forces or contractors. They all swear by mobile 1. They just poor it over the bolt carrier and keep shooting. I have been using it now for 4 years and it works like a charm.
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/24/2012 2:05 AM
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I'm a Valvoline guy myself, but only for my trucks and cars. Remember 9 out of 10 ASE Master Techs recommend and use Valvoline, and I'm one of them
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. John Wayne-The Shootist
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/24/2012 2:30 PM
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AMzoil in all my cars. My toyota tacoma now has 309,000 on it and doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil. My gas mileage went up as well when I started using it. And I change my oil every 9000 miles instead of 3500. Hey if synthetic is good enough for the jets I fly I figure they can't be bad for your vehicle. Granted your RPMs in a car are only runninf 2300 on the highway and my jet is turning 37500 rpms LOL!
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Re: cleaning your wheelguns
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06/24/2012 4:46 PM
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LOL, Amzoil is good as is Redline and Royal Purple, I've used to use standard Valvoline and then switched to Valvoline full synthetic and now in two of my trucks I run Valvoline Max, I did switch from the Valvoline full Syn 5w-40 to the Rotella 5w-40 full synthestic in my diesel though. The Valvoline is over 30.00 a gallon and the Rotella is about 22.00 and when I have to buy 4 gallons at a time it adds up fast. I still change my diesel at 5000 and my gas rigs at 3000 regardless of what I'm using though. 22yrs in the shop have taught me you can't have oil that's too clean.
Sorry for the Hijack didn't mean too but it is funny how one thing leads to another.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. John Wayne-The Shootist
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06/24/2012 8:21 PM
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Wapitirod - if you didn't change your synthetic oil so often you could easily afford that Valvoline stuff - myself, I run Amsoil and have done so since they 1st came out with the magical stuff and I run 15K between changes, sometimes longer but then again, I run dual oil filters.
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06/25/2012 3:16 AM
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LOL, I'm running amzoil in my Ar's from now on! There back on topic!
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06/26/2012 1:54 AM
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Castrol ATF for my guns!! Thinking of switching to Froglube, though. Supposedly cleans carbon build up, leading, and pretreats steel against fouling and also lubes. Oh yeah, and it smells like wintergreen dip. Will report how it works once I get my hands on some.
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