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This one's for Whit #115416 08/10/2012 5:26 PM
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In celebration of your new book, I went out and bought me a .457GNR....



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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Russell] #115420 08/10/2012 6:17 PM
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Haha! Congratulations to you, Russell (from one jarhead to another!)! Welcome to our addiction!


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Whitworth] #115437 08/10/2012 10:53 PM
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Nice hammer Russ! Give us some details on the 457GNR...

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It's a .475Max necked down to .458. It was designed to give .45-70 ballistics from a 7.5" tube. case are made by cutting .45-70 cases to 1.610" and running through the custom die set from Reeder. This one has a 5-shot cylinder on a stretch frame Ruger, a 5" bull barrel, and 'v' notch, gold bead sights. The sight blade on both the front and rear sights are changeable.


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Russell] #115447 08/11/2012 12:17 AM
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Whew! Warn me before you touch it off at the next CSA ....
Looks good, Russ.

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That"s a nice looking gun.

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Looks kinda neat, a little short though. Does it shoot worth a darn?

Re: This one's for Whit [Re: rlb] #115453 08/11/2012 12:45 AM
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They called Russ Seyfried's 45 Colt a "short 458". I guess that one really is!

Cool gun to say the least.

Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Russell] #115464 08/11/2012 1:45 AM
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 Quote:
It was designed to give .45-70 ballistics from a 7.5" tube.


Holy! Just what I want in a 4" gun. Jeez man. Pretty piece...


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: s4s4u] #115465 08/11/2012 1:48 AM
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let us know if you have setback issues.


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I remember I once refused to fire a monster hand cannon at the range and all I could say was "your a better man then me".....
Good luck with your new 475 Russ. James


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: jamesfromjersey] #115493 08/11/2012 7:21 PM
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I own a 14" (12" barrel + 2" comp).45-70 that I used to hunt deer and black bear with. Wound up with several pieces of .45-70 brass, some jacketed bullets and 2 .45-70 moulds, 1 for a 340gr and 1 for a 405gr, RFN. I'm going 'green' and recycling.


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Here are some 're-cycled' .45-70 now .457GNR from today's 'prep'n.



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I can't tell is the brass bottlenecked or just tapered to .458


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The ones in the picture are neither. Waiting on the dies to form them, but from looking at a photo of the cartridge on Gary's website and looking/measureing the trimmed cases, my best guess is a taper.


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Russell] #115568 08/13/2012 4:11 AM
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That will be alot better than necked, which is why I mentioned set back issues. A taper cartridge should avoid that.


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: wapitirod] #115583 08/13/2012 2:43 PM
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sweet piece!!


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: johnwilliams] #115781 08/15/2012 7:27 PM
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The dies arrived Tuesday and I was able to load some of the brass for testing. Out of the 20 cases I had cut to size, I ruined 2 getting the flaring die set and wound up with 18 loaded rounds. Today I drove out to a friend's 100yd range, marked off 25yds and set up a target.

The first five 'offhand' were high right, only 1 hit the target backing. Adjusting for windage, the next 5 were high, but on the backing. One more windage adjustment and an elevation adjustment and I was 'on'.



I then walked back to the bench and shot the last 3 at a dirt clod on the berm. Hit it once out of the 3 shots.

John Taffin stated in his article on TESTING the .475MAXIMUM that
abut 35 rounds at a setting was all he wanted to shoot. I concurr!



It's not the gun, but the man behind it.

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The load I was testing was 34grs IMR4227 with a 345gr cast .458 bullet and CCI 200 primers in a cut down (1.6").45-70 case.


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Re: This one's for Whit [Re: Russell] #115829 08/16/2012 2:30 AM
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I'll say it again - Nice hammer Russ! I shot today as well - and got shellshocked by a lot less gun...Recovered, but had to "tighten up" and concentrate hard to do so!



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