John Ross 500 S&W
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Does anyone own one of these? If so, do you like it? For those who have shot this gun and the FA 500WE or the BFR 500JRH, how do they compare?
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Re: John Ross 500 S&W
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if you click on the interactive edition of Handgun Hunter Magazine (in the upper right corner in the portal Sidebar) Gary has a very good article on that exact topic that I think should help you out a bunch
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Yes I read that. Was just wanting some different opinions on the subject. As you probably know, the John Ross isn't ported and has a 5" barrel, and barrel nut to set the barrel cylinder gap. Overall a pretty cool looking gun.
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I really like the JRH was able to shoot my pig using the BFR with an ultra dot l/t, 400 grain Grizzly load poleaxed him at 50 yards between the eyes.
The BFR is probably the best bang for your buck and after a Huntington grip frame modification its a dream to shoot. There is nothing like grips custom fit to your hands, I have never heard of a BFR not being accurate and many will agree with that statement.
The JRH was the predecessor to the 500 WE, and was specifically designed for the 83 , they are ballistic clones except the belt,
Can't speak on the John Ross 500, but x frames are x frames, JMHO
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I really have no idea why I think I "need" a 500 of any sort. If it needs more killin than a 454 will give, I doubt I'll be killin it! But guns haven't been a matter of need for me since I was a kid. But I sure have wanted a bunch since then! A 50 is something I've never owned, so I suppose that's a pretty good excuse, right?
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I don't "need" a 50 but I want one, so thats what I am building, Some say there is no difference in killing some say there is, personally... well If you want a 50 go for it you won't be disappointed, load it how it was designed to load, and lay some game out. If I had to pick one I go BFR, just great value, Whitworth has shot some groups rifles would be jealous of with both of his. http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=5746&limit=recentI had good luck shooting it!
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I wish I could find a BFR locally so I could see and feel before I buy. I've already read most of Max's book, and it is a great read! I also grew up with Ross Seyfried, so I've had a big bore interest for quite awhile. It started with big bore revolvers, then progressed to dangerous game rifles. Now I'm back to revolvers. I think I'll stay awhile....
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08/29/2013 11:34 AM
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I’ve got a JR 500SW and after two trips back to S&W (cylinder gap issues) and getting the cylinder throats reamed, I like it. I know another JR 500 owner and he never had the cylinder gap issues but had the same under-sized throats as I did (even more so) and he got his throats reamed as well. Both JR’s now shoot great with both jacketed and cast.
The muzzle blast is a non-issue compared to the compensated models under a canopy. As for the 500 SW compared to the 500 JRH – the SW will out-perform the JRH a bunch relative to speed and bullet weight – so, if you don’t mind the X-frame’s weight and want true unadulterated power but don’t want to step up to 50 Alaskan power – well, that JR will fill the bill.
I also have the BFR 500 JRH with a 6” barrel and I like that also but with over the top loads – I prefer shooting the SW, as the BFR knocks hell out of my trigger finger with every shot – so I have to wear shooting gloves to prevent blood loss. With the SW all you have is a “little” sting in your palm, with or without shooting gloves. With normal loads, they are both pussycats.
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Toby,
I also do not need a 500. However, I have a 500 WE. Why? Because I want it. I personally significantly prefer the M83 to the X frame and the BFR.
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Well at the end of the day i dont feel ya gain much. In the end ya shoot 1000lb and up stuff and nonenof it is gonna go right down so 500 smith 400 gr vs 600 gr vs 500 we etc justdoesnt matter imho. Shoot what feels right
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Thanks everybody! I feel like if they used to shoot Elephants with a 461 Gibbs Black Powder rifle, with a 300-350 grain pure lead bullet at around 1200-1500 fps, anything much over a 44 magnum should work fine on most anything you're likely to shoot with a revolver.
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Regarding the comment above about the tight throats on the S&W, it seems like that's a common thing these days. My newer 629 has very tight throats, but it does shoot well, so I haven't messed with it. I suspect it won't do well with cast bullets though. I shoot mostly jacketed bullets, so I don't mind that much.
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All our smiths shoot great i have no idea ehat the throats are but theyre very very accurate
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