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44 sight in #140778 01/24/2014 5:01 PM
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I tryed ti sight in my Ruger SB .44 mag 7 1/2 brl. the orhte day with not very good results. I was shooting Magtech 240 grn. jsp ammo. I could get two rounds with in a inch of each other then I would get a flyer to the left about 6" to 8". This hapened three or fout times. I shot about 18 rounds at 25 yards. I dont know if it was the ammo or not but I was shooting from a bench so I don't think it was me. (But I'm still not rulling that out). I'm thinking of loading some 300 grn. XTPs with H110. I think the book shows 18 GRNs which would give me around 1200 fps. I'm hoping this will change things.

If any one has a load they think would be better I would be greatfull. I'm wanting to use it for deer and hogs.

Re: 44 sight in [Re: Deputy] #140779 01/24/2014 5:14 PM
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It could be your hold, you could be flinching, or it could be the ammo. In any event, the only solution is to shoot more with different ammo until you find something you're accurate with. If you haven't tried the Hogue oversized finger groove grip with that gun you might consider it. It's ugly as can be, but if your problem is control of the weapon then it will be to your advantage.

When I was using 44mag I loaded 21gr of 2400 with a 240. It's a Ruger only load, but it's as accurate as can be and very capable on deer with a good projectile.

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Another suggestion---- is there any chance you are letting another eye open slightly? People have a tendency to switch aiming eyes, such as, if you aim with the right eye and hit center then all of a sudden you start hittng right about 6",you probably let your left eye creep open.

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Are you resting the gun? If so, how? Resting the barrel of a wheelgun can cause erratic results. Also resting the butt of the gun on a firm surface can do similar.


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Re: 44 sight in [Re: s4s4u] #140786 01/24/2014 6:56 PM
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I've not found the Magtech 44 ammo to be very accurate but that's just my guns. I would try some different loads and the 300 gr. will probably shoot a bit better than the 240's.


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Re: 44 sight in [Re: dhom] #140807 01/25/2014 2:56 AM
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 Originally Posted By: dhom
Another suggestion---- is there any chance you are letting another eye open slightly? People have a tendency to switch aiming eyes, such as, if you aim with the right eye and hit center then all of a sudden you start hittng right about 6",you probably let your left eye creep open.


I always have both eyes open while shoo'n
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The ammo may not be the most accurate in your gun, but you shouldn't have 6" spread in your group from a bench at 25 yards. I've shot magtech in my FA's with great accuracy. You could have a misaligned chamber, throat issues or it could be you. I'd start with the latter; it's cheaper to correct and is usually the issue. I don't know this for sure because I don't know your shoot'n skills or history. One easy method of checking from flinching; shoot a couple cylinders and check your groups. On the third cylinder, have a buddy do your loading; randomly, with ammo/empty hulls. Start shoot'n. If your flinching, you'll know when you get to a hull;)


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Re: 44 sight in [Re: KRal] #140981 01/31/2014 2:04 AM
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Sir.. l think you are flinching..lt happened to me when l first tried my SBH.. lt seemed to be the dragoon trigger guard that bothered me. l replaced the fact grips with some Pacs and that partially solved the problem..l dont have it with my BH or Colt Model P

Re: 44 sight in [Re: sw282] #141292 02/08/2014 6:56 AM
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+ 1 for the ugly rubber grips, it is quite comforting to know you have both a better grip (fills the hand better), and ( the rubber has a better gripping surface). Their also maybe some amount of if only mental, recoil softening.

I may one day know what a good set of made for my skinny long fingers feels like, until then I have rubber. As ugly as they look in pictures, it is much worse in person.


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Beauty is as beauty does as Forrest Gump would say, and my Pachs, and Hogue's are beautiful to me because they work. No finger bite and a firm hand filling grip. I love beautiful wood as well as anyone, but I love what makes my guns less painful and easier to shoot more. When you get on the back side of 50 by 10 years or more and Arthritis rears his ugly head you will seek all the comfort you can find.


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Always use Hogues on mine & I love them.


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Another thing you might try is label your cylinder 1, 2,3,4,5,6. And put up as many targets as you have bullets loaded. Shoot chamber 1 at target 1, chamber 2 at target 2 and so on.
If you believe you are not the problem, this may help to pinpoint a problem with a chamber or 2.
I had a raging bull I did this with, it would print 3 within an inch or two the others would be at the edges of a 9 inch plate every time. It was my first big revolver, so I tried to eliminate me as the problem.

I found the problem while cleaning the gun. 3 chambers were evenly spaced to the forcing cone, the others looked like someone cut them with a 10" grinder. Looked bad, I didn't even know to look for that when I bought it. Was a brand new gun, it was traded shortly after.


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Re: 44 sight in [Re: Vance in AK.] #141508 02/12/2014 2:19 PM
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If you're not flinching, then I'll bet you a $10 bill that Ruger crushed your barrel as they screwed it in.

Hammer a lead roundball or soft(er) cast bullet down your barrel and then put the ball back into the barrel. Slowly push it through with a dowel...you will be able to easily tell if you have restriction somewhere (usually at the the frame)


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I agree with Fan and Freedom. Sounds like the chambers may not all be the same throat size. Freedom brings up a good point. I have 4 different Rugers that all have about .001" of thread choke. One has 1 chamber where the throat is .002" smaller than the other 5.

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I agree with Fan and Freedom. Sounds like the chambers may not all be the same throat size. Freedom brings up a good point. I have 4 different Rugers that all have about .001" of thread choke. One has 1 chamber where the throat is .002" smaller than the other 5. Do like Fan says and shoot each chamber for groups and see if there might need to be a cylinder throat adjustment.

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 Originally Posted By: Fan of the 1911
Another thing you might try is label your cylinder 1, 2,3,4,5,6. And put up as many targets as you have bullets loaded. Shoot chamber 1 at target 1, chamber 2 at target 2 and so on.


+1. I numbered the chambers on one of my Rugers, and after some range time, found the most accurate chambers in this manner. None are terrible, but the gun is noticeably more accurate with two out of the 6. Luckily, the second-best is also the second round, so before heading into the woods, I index the best chamber for the first shot.

I also like the Hogue stocks, and have one each on a 329PD, a Python, and the above-mentioned SRH. They will not win points for looks, but fit my hands well.


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