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Opinions on 10mm #145634 05/30/2014 12:08 AM
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Gentlemen,

I have an opportunity to purchase a Glock 20 in 10mm at a really good price. I already hunt with my SRH, and hadn't planned on getting rid of it anytime soon, but the 10mm is very interesting.

I carry a Glock in rotation with my 1911's of various flavors, and the only pistol caliber I reload is for the .45 and .44 Magnum. I switch shooting pistol league with the Glock 30SF and my Commander.

Note for you Glock haters, I know - I get it - it is the ugliest gun I own, and I'm sometimes ashamed that my 1911 friends see it on me, but I'd much rather beat up the Glock when working around the farm than my purty 1911's!

I do NOT reload for the 10mm, and probably won't shoot enough to buy the dies and components.

I mainly hunt small to medium sized game, from deer to medium sized hogs up to 300 pounds.

I hear a lot on the internet (so it must be true) that with proper loads, the 10mm is as good as the 357 for medium game. Any truth to this, or is Uncle Ted just really sold on the 10mm?

Honest opinions requested - my worry is that it will just sit in my safe and never get used, when I could spend the money on components for the good old .44!!!


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: geoexchange] #145635 05/30/2014 12:22 AM
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I have a Glock 20 10mm. It does shoot nice. I consider it a reloading proposition. Most of your factory stuff is nothing more that a .40 +P. It would perform admirably as a ranch gun since you wont lose any sleep running a Glock through the grime...and it will still perform. If you are talking about adding to your stable of guns I say get it. I would not replace one of the others with it. The Glock will take the game you are talking about without any trouble. I would get some good ammo like Underwood etc. It is very similar to the 41 mag.

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I hear a lot on the internet (so it must be true) that with proper loads, the 10mm is as good as the 357 for medium game.


And I also heard that the 357 Sig is just like the 357 Mag....

Or that the 10mm is just as good as the 41 Mag....

Bottom feederers are always trying to compensate for their lack of "length" ;-)

That said, I expect the 10 could be as effective as the 357 with the proper load.

And I like bottom feeders....


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: s4s4u] #145651 05/30/2014 7:50 AM
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The Glock with 6" barrel added and and heavy Buffalo Bore and DoubleTap ammo has a following up here for bear protection. The hottest 10 gets close to the light 41.


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: SEAK] #145655 05/30/2014 10:20 AM
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I took delivery of a Glock 20 last week to test, and yesterday mounted a Trijicon on it. More testing to follow.......


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Whitworth] #145665 05/30/2014 12:29 PM
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The Glock 20, even loaded with factory Hornady fodder, will get it done on the game you'll chase. The DoubleTap and BuffaloBore ammo take it to another level, or put a 6" LW/KKM/Storm Lake barrel on it for more "oomph".

Mine gets the nod for swamp carry, every time. Don't feel comfortable taking the hose to the FA's to wash the mud out
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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Whitworth] #145681 05/30/2014 3:06 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
I took delivery of a Glock 20 last week to test, and yesterday mounted a Trijicon on it. More testing to follow.......


Whit,

I hope the first test is with the glass covered, to make sure ejection is good and clear of the glass ;^)

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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Bearbait in NM] #145685 05/30/2014 3:44 PM
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Haha! I am having to clean up brass after my sessions -- it's weird!


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Whitworth] #145690 05/30/2014 4:41 PM
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You and me both, brother. I have a moon clipped 45 S&W now, and I do not have to get prickly pear thorns in my hands picking up brass. Weird....

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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Bearbait in NM] #145704 05/30/2014 8:02 PM
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Thank you all for the reply. Off to get it tomorrow...

Whitworth, let me know how your testing goes. I will order some Buffalo Bore, etc.

I'm also going to look into the longer barrels. Dang it. Now I'm thinking about buying dies and components.

(Gun people are like drug dealers - give you enough to get you hooked. Thanks guys!)


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: geoexchange] #145705 05/30/2014 8:17 PM
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A good replacement barrel will give better case head support and shoot lead better.


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Geo,

Look at the bright side. It's a Glock, so while you will need good leather, you'll save a ton on aftermarket grips.....

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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Bearbait in NM] #145719 05/31/2014 3:08 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Bearbait in NM
Geo,

Look at the bright side. It's a Glock, so while you will need good leather, you'll save a ton on aftermarket grips.....


Yeah, and when ya scratch it up, it will look a LOT better!!


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I carried my Glock 20SF last year during deer season, but didn't get the opportunity to use it. I would not hesitate to take a shot in the 40 yard range with it. I shoot 180 grain Noslers and 190 grain WFLGC's. Very good accuracy.





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I saw some CORBON 180 gr jacketed Ammo velocity claimed was 1350 fps that would out do a 357 mag.


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 Originally Posted By: Dave Tarbell
I saw some CORBON 180 gr jacketed Ammo velocity claimed was 1350 fps that would out do a 357 mag.


That is the speed my GP-100 throws a 180 at, so I'd call that pretty even steven. I'd be comfortable with either out to 50 yards or so on deer.


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: s4s4u] #145764 06/01/2014 2:16 AM
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I've been playing with Federal's 180 grain load and a few loads from Double Tap.


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: geoexchange] #145814 06/02/2014 12:25 AM
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Not sure about uncle ted, but the weakest 10mm load (namely any load sold otc since they make it as weak as 40) far surpasses all 357 loads except for those of us who roll our own hot stuff with 180s possibly and even then you are still launching a 358 vs a 401 for us lead lovers. I try not to think it, but 357 is in contention with 9mm, not 10mm. Me and the wife love our 686s but they dont compare to my 10mm 610 revolver spitting out 200 grains of lead cloosing in on 1400 fps. There is a reason why you arent going to make major with your 357 and have to struggle to load into minor with a 10mm if you compete ... the 2 are nowhere close to each other.

Dont be ashamed of your glock. Of my extensive pistol collection, none are glock (and only 1 1911 because lets face it ... the only 1911s that you want to wag and brag with are 38 super and 10mm other than the coonan in 357 mag). If I were to get the g20 with my law enforcement discount it would be to get a mechtech and turn it into a carbine for the pure sillyness of doing so.

Look at a box of 10 and 40 of the same manufacture and youll see that they are maybe 30 fps difference. The caliber is loaded down because of all the sensitive shooters out there. Underwood, Doubletap and Buffalo Bore are going to be the way to go if you dont want to develop your own serious hunting load. No matter how you look at it though it is simply just an on the heels of 41 magnum of which has become pretty well reload only at this point.

Hats off to you though with the SRH. SRH 9.5" in 480 replaced my SRH and 629-3 in 44 magnum. When it came along my 454 casull went to range showoff status but didnt get sold like my 44 magnums did in shame along with 3000 rounds of ammo.

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except for those of us who roll our own


Only those of us who do will ever get the most out of either.

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but 357 is in contention with 9mm


Seriously?

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on the heels of 41 magnum


Agreed. As is the 357 Magnum.

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I have ultimate love for 357, having over 5,000 rounds of brass for it and a good 2,000 loaded (mainly to eat up lead before It turns into 38s for the wife when she isnt doing taxidermy)... but it is not running with 10mm and 41 magnum no matter how much love and adoration I have for the first handgun caliber I shot in my childhood. 357 maximum will get you there, not the 357 magnum. Maximum, 9x25 dillon and the Supermags ... *drools*

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I've got an old S&W 1076 that I really like, you just don't see to many around. I haven't fired it a whole lot, I don't like trying to find the ammo! But it's a good feeling/carrying auto to me, almost as good as my old 1911

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When I was much younger, I bought a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm when they first came out. When I was younger (and not as smart) I sold that Delta Elite for a Smith 4506 because my department wouldn't let me carry a 10mm.

I bought the G20. Now off to shop for barrels, and dies, and components, and sights, and holsters, and ammunition, and.....

I'm not ashamed of my Glocks - I just don't like the way they -look-. I was out working around the cattle yesterday in the heat and when I came in, my G30SF was literally dripping with (my)sweat. Not something I'd do with my purty 1911's! I just wiped it off on my shirt and re-holstered. It has a Ghost "Rocket" 3.5# trigger with no overtravel and shoots as good as my custom Commander. No, the trigger isn't quite as good, but it's still not bad! I see my 1911's as my winter or "dress" pistols, my revolvers as hunting firearms, and my Glocks as simply tools. Maybe that will change with the G20, but I bought it cheap if it doesn't work for me.

Raining today, so no range report on the G20.

Again, thank you all for the replies. It's nice to have a resource like this of people that have "been there, done that" instead of a bunch people giving advice/opinions that have never owned the pistol you are asking about.


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http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/data/500/GLOCK_20.jpg

6" Lone Wolf barrel and 22 pound spring I use Beartooth 220 grain WNFPGC at 1350 using some Blue DOt 800X is also a great powder. I recently obtained some 230 SWC for the 10 and have not worked up a load.

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Geo,

I think you have figured out that this forum tends to be a little more platform neutral. By that I mean in the autos, whether a 1911, a Glock, a DE or even the automag, folks tend to be more about the use, and not the vehicle. I am not a huge Glock fan, but to deny that the folks here are not doing some pretty neat stuff on the hunting side, would be just plain pig-headed on my part.

Sure, we all have our likes and dislikes, and some of us even like points for style, but in general if you want to have a rational adult conversation about handgun hunting, folks here seem to oblige ;^)

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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Bearbait in NM] #146449 06/10/2014 1:40 PM
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Mad Dog - is there a reason you went to iron sights, or is it just because you can't deer hunt with it and our wonderful hunting laws here in beautiful Indiana? If you liked the mount, can you tell me which one it is?

I'm not sure I'm going to try optics on the G20. I have used a red dot on my Super Redhawk, but took it off last year in favor of a rear peep sight or stock Ruger sights. I figured at 50 yards or less, I don't really have a need for optics - but it does make it easier to be more precise.


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: geoexchange] #146451 06/10/2014 2:18 PM
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I mounted a Trijicon RMR to the G20 I am testing.


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Re: Opinions on 10mm [Re: Whitworth] #146468 06/10/2014 4:53 PM
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Mr Whitworth which rmr did you go with? Im saving for a red dot for my Ruger 22/45 for practice and a G20 may be next years project

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If you already load for the 45 ACP, forgo the 10mm & get the conversion spring kit for your 1911 in 45 Super.


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