Shooting at angles
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Does shooting at extreme angles change POI like it does with bowhunting? and do you use rangefinders with angle technology?
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/06/2014 6:35 PM
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If I had to guess I'd say yes, if the angle was steep enough and the range long enough, you'd have to account for the angle. Most of us probably won't ever need to take the angle into account, but I do use a rangefinder with angle compensation.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/06/2014 7:13 PM
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Does shooting at extreme angles change POI like it does with bowhunting? and do you use rangefinders with angle technology? If you are a longrange mountain hunter, I'd say yes. If not, there's really no need in worrying about it. This is just my opinion.
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If hunting from a stand its good to be sure where your bullet is going
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/06/2014 8:05 PM
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Definitely does. Last year shot a baboon at 440 yds. (rangefinder) at 35 degrees down. Held my 350 yd. Plex on my BPlex scope on his chest (high). Hit him in the neck. I've noticed 10% angles or less don't require readjustment.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/06/2014 9:25 PM
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The G7-BR2 laser rangefinder gives correction with angles, as does the Burris Eliminator 3 scope. Does shooting at extreme angles change POI like it does with bowhunting? and do you use rangefinders with angle technology?
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/07/2014 12:28 AM
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To be honest i hunt tree stands and have used a leupold range finder and the most i have seen the range fineder read was 1 foot at 30 yds 16 foot up a tree. Not enough to worry about with a bow and even less with the rifle. That said... mountain grades at long distance i have never messed with.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/08/2014 11:51 PM
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Wow one foot= 12 inches at thirty yards is something I would say is pretty major. I am thinking that at 70 yrds and shooting straight up at a blacktail might be a deal breaker. I will be shooting a lot of test rounds and let you all know what I find.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/09/2014 12:00 AM
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Oh and bye the way NO offense intended. I hunt the Oregon coast range and you can have a 30yrd shot and be aiming straight up or down , I have not shot enough in these conditions to have an awnser but do know that I missed a good buck at 73 yrds that I should not have. High bye the way.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/09/2014 2:33 AM
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Wow one foot= 12 inches at thirty yards is something I would say is pretty major. I am thinking that at 70 yrds and shooting straight up at a blacktail might be a deal breaker. I will be shooting a lot of test rounds and let you all know what I find. That one foot is horizontally, not vertically.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/09/2014 4:15 PM
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You will always shoot high, on a steep vertical up or down shot, as gravity acts only on the horizontal component of the triangle.
I agree, shooting these conditions is best to figure things out, but if not able, I like to at least model them in in a ballistic program. Especially if using scoped gun, and absolutely if the scope is mounted high.
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/09/2014 4:45 PM
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Shooting up or down angles, simply makes the target Closer than a standard rangefinder reads.
I own break opens and an XP, but since these give rifle ballistics I don't believe they apply to the "Handgun" question.
For true revolver hunting ranges, you will not see enough change to worry about out to 100 yards...No matter what angle you shoot.
For the standard 7 1/2" 44mag w/240gr bullet at 1480fps, sighted at 100yards you will never be more than 2" above your line of sight (at 50yrds). If you range a deer at 100 yards and you are shooting down (or up) a 45* hill, your actual distance to target will only be 70 yards... 1 1/2" high...so just aim center and "DirtKnap" If the angle is 80* the gravity distance to target will only be 17yards away!!LOL
With the same 44 load, if you are sighted dead on at 50 yards your bullet never really gets above the line of sight...so "any" angle (even straight down/up) out to 50 yards will result in NO elevation change.
I zero my scoped SBHH at 150yards...with the above load I am never more than 5" high and only 5" low at 175yards....so even at this extreme, I will never be more than 5" high, no matter how steep the mountain is. The one thing an angle rangefinder will offer me is I may be able to extend that range to 200+yrds, and still hold high on the hair, if the hill is steep enough.
I understand that this is a little over simplified because our bore axis is set at an angle to our sight axis... But most of us will not have too many shots that are 450feet staight down...LOL
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Re: Shooting at angles
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10/10/2014 12:35 AM
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Wow one foot= 12 inches at thirty yards is something I would say is pretty major. I am thinking that at 70 yrds and shooting straight up at a blacktail might be a deal breaker. I will be shooting a lot of test rounds and let you all know what I find. That one foot is horizontally, not vertically. Yea I he may have misunderstood that. You can do the A square, B square, C square thing I suppose. Shooting at angles is like getting free trajectory as gravity has less time to operate. Unless shooting a real rainbow thrower it doesn't matter much at typical handgun distances.
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