Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
#157554
03/23/2015 12:32 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10
Rick in AZ
OP
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10 |
I just picked up a couple more XP 100's and am looking to change and use a rifle scope. I have pistol scopes on my other XP's and not sure what to get for long range scopes using a long range rifle scope on a pistol . Am considering a Weaver Kaspa 3X12ILL based on the reviews. I looked through a Leupold VX lll 6X20 I have on a rifle but not sure about the longer eye relief. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Rick
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157557
03/23/2015 12:59 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 920
billa
old hand
|
old hand
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 920 |
What cartridge are you shooting in your XPs? Heavy recoil? I have used a Bushnell Scopechief IV on my TC Contender 223 since the early 80s and it has served me well on shots at game out to 400 yards.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... " Matthew 28:19
Handgun hunter since 1979 - haven't used a rifle since! HHI member #992, NRA, SCI.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: billa]
#157558
03/23/2015 1:08 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 920
billa
old hand
|
old hand
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 920 |
There are a few XP experts on the forum that shoot really long range that will likely have good advice for you.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... " Matthew 28:19
Handgun hunter since 1979 - haven't used a rifle since! HHI member #992, NRA, SCI.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: billa]
#157565
03/23/2015 2:55 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,006
Zee
Shooting Expert
|
Shooting Expert
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,006 |
I have run everything from 4x Handgun scopes to 6.5-20x rifle scopes on my XP-100s. For hunting at distance, my favorite is probably a 3.5-10x or a 4.5-14x with Leupold being my preferred choice.
Keep in mind, center grip stocks are more conducive to field conditions than a rear grip one. Not sure what you are using, but, that would be my recommendation. Rear grip is fine on the range.......I truly dislike them in the field.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Zee]
#157566
03/23/2015 3:01 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10
Rick in AZ
OP
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10 |
I'll be using them for Prairie dogs, one's a little 6 and may take a few deer with it in TX. I have Leopold scopes on several rifles, I'll probably start with them and see how I do. Both have brakes so the recoil shouldn't be bad. I have a 7mm BR, it has a pistol scope with no brake and has all the recoil I like.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157567
03/23/2015 3:25 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,006
Zee
Shooting Expert
|
Shooting Expert
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,006 |
Remember, don't crawl up on the scope and get that "perfect" rifle scope eye relief. It won't be enjoyable.
I only crawl up on the scope to find my target, then..........I back off and create a smaller doughnut hole in the center to aim with. Giving me about a foot +/- of space between my face and the ocular lens. The recoil of the gun and your comfort zone will dictate the distance needed to avoid a facial collision with your scope.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Zee]
#157569
03/23/2015 7:03 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,155
Gregg Richter
Distinguished Expert
|
Distinguished Expert
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,155 |
Remember, don't crawl up on the scope and get that "perfect" rifle scope eye relief. It won't be enjoyable.
I only crawl up on the scope to find my target, then..........I back off and create a smaller doughnut hole in the center to aim with. Giving me about a foot +/- of space between my face and the ocular lens. The recoil of the gun and your comfort zone will dictate the distance needed to avoid a facial collision with your scope. Very well said.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Gregg Richter]
#157590
03/24/2015 1:12 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512
Ernie
Distinguished Master
|
Distinguished Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512 |
I prefer the 6.5-20 over the 4.5-14 simply because the 4.5-14 has such a short tube in front of the turrets compared to the 6.5-20. The 6.5-20 allows me to bring the objective further with a two piece base. One piece is a non-issue if your rings are high enough, but I prefer my rings to be short as possible for prone work. sitting doesn't matter though. I use the 4.5-14 as well on SP's for distance
Ernie the Un-Tactical
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Ernie]
#157591
03/24/2015 2:07 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10
Rick in AZ
OP
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10 |
Thanks for the info. I've got a couple 6.5X20's so I'll pull one and try in on the little 6 and see how it does. It has a nice brake so it should work out well. I may go ahead and put a 4.5X14 on the 223 and see how they compare. Appreciate the information. I found your Article on rifle scopes last night Ernie, great article. I'm looking forward to giving them a try. Rick
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157596
03/24/2015 2:42 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,057
Gary
Distinguished Master
|
Distinguished Master
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,057 |
I know Ernie already chimed in but ... Rifle Scopes on Handguns
You can't wait any longer. Join the NRA and start writing your Congressmen and Senators.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Gary]
#157735
03/28/2015 2:07 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 241
nmhunter
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 241 |
Ernie is an excellent source for long range/scope choices. at this time I am not using rifle scopes, still have a few but currently not in use. However with the new compact nightforce in the 4x16 atacr & the 5x25 atacr models I may have to reconsider my scope choice Welcome rick, what part of AZ?
Last edited by nmhunter; 03/28/2015 2:09 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157784
03/29/2015 10:36 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512
Ernie
Distinguished Master
|
Distinguished Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512 |
Glad it was beneficial. Thanks for the info. I've got a couple 6.5X20's so I'll pull one and try in on the little 6 and see how it does. It has a nice brake so it should work out well. I may go ahead and put a 4.5X14 on the 223 and see how they compare. Appreciate the information. I found your Article on rifle scopes last night Ernie, great article. I'm looking forward to giving them a try. Rick
Ernie the Un-Tactical
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: nmhunter]
#157790
03/29/2015 11:38 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10
Rick in AZ
OP
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10 |
Ernie is an excellent source for long range/scope choices. at this time I am not using rifle scopes, still have a few but currently not in use. However with the new compact nightforce in the 4x16 atacr & the 5x25 atacr models I may have to reconsider my scope choice Welcome rick, what part of AZ? I'm in Scottsdale, also have a small place in the Hill Country west of San Antonio, TX. Looking forward to trying these new XP's when I head to TX in a couple weeks.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157797
03/30/2015 5:04 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512
Ernie
Distinguished Master
|
Distinguished Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512 |
I put on a steel field shoot and prairie dog shoot for handguns only in June for 3-days, if you are interested. You will see a large variety of handguns and specialty pistols there.
Ernie the Un-Tactical
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#157816
03/30/2015 11:04 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,212
Bullelk Hunter
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,212 |
I just won a Leupold VX III 3.5 -10x 30mm CDS with the new windplex. It is awesome, and getting it for a $20 dollar ticket makes it more awesome!! I'm not sure what it's going on but most likely my 15" 243 or 6.5 jdj or 270 or 7mm08 or 308 or 30'06...not sure yet. I know its not going on 15" 338 win mag, but hey maybe my 338-06!! Gee whiz, I guess I need more scopes...actually, the ones I use most of stalking have Leupies 4x or 2.5 -8. My 7mm mag has an old Simmons 2-7 on it for years. It still works in woods or short Pa hay fields.
BullElk Hunter (Gerry)HHI #2933 And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom shall I send and who will go for us? And I said: Here am I, send me!(Is. 6:8)
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Bullelk Hunter]
#157912
04/04/2015 1:08 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 122
ssphunter
member
|
member
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 122 |
Eh Bullelk Hunter, How would you like to double your investment? You spent $20.00 for that scope so I'll give you $40.00 for it. Where else can you double your money that easily? LOL. I'll even pay your shipping fees. How ya been anyways, havnt heard from ya in quite a while. Mike
Enjoy your family and friends today as they may not be here tomorow.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: ssphunter]
#158412
04/25/2015 12:39 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10
Rick in AZ
OP
stranger
|
OP
stranger
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 10 |
Well I took Ernie's suggestion and installed a VX 3 6.5X20 X40 scope on one of my XP 100. I agree it is far better for the long shots than my 2.5 X 8 Leopold handgun scope. It's far easier to shoot accurately than the handgun scope with long eye relief. I also made a great discovery. Picked up a couple Weaver Kaspa scopes and WOW was I pleasantly surprised. One is 4 X 16 X40 with side focus and one is 3X12X 50. The 3X12 went on my XP 100, 223 and it is a great addition. shot it @ 200 yards and clear as a bell. This is a very good glass for an in expensive scope. Was equally surprised when I did a box test and the clicks were right on @ 200 yards. Anxious to try them on my dog shoot next month.
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Rick in AZ]
#158413
04/25/2015 1:09 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512
Ernie
Distinguished Master
|
Distinguished Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,512 |
Glad it is working for you
Ernie the Un-Tactical
|
|
|
Re: Scope recommendation for XP 100 Long range
[Re: Ernie]
#158494
04/29/2015 2:53 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 75
DJTJR
journeyman
|
journeyman
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 75 |
As always great advise from Erinie. He's a great source for anything xp related.
NRA Life Member
|
|
|
|
0 registered members (),
79
guests, and 0
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|