What's your preferred handgun rest?
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I've been experimenting with different ways to rest my handguns steadily while practicing and sighting in. At first, I tried to use my rifle rest turned sideways, then a couple of sandbags (which got shredded by the 460's cylinder flash), a bipod, a tripod, and eventually a Caldwell handgun rest. However, while doing a bit of dry fire practice today, I discovered a tripod under the Encore's forend and a bipod under the grip made an incredibly steady rest. If it doesn't rain this weekend, I'll try shooting off of the two to see how well I like it. I really hope this works, since this is something I could actually use in the field while hunting.
What do the rest of you use for regular sight in and practice, and what do you use while hunting?
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What kind of rest is that?
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Re: What's your preferred handgun rest?
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Re: What's your preferred handgun rest?
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wow those are some sweet rests
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I practice and sight in with what I hunt with- a backpack filled with medium weight pillows to give it body. Extremely stable on the ground, off fences, trees (with a bow hanger). The gun is cradled in the pack for total stability of the entire gun. It's easily portable and is not something extra I have to carry. I've made shots on this one out to 718 yards. Used one for 35 years. Never considered anything else.
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Now that's a neat idea. I'll try something similar next time I shoot.
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Wonder how well the pack thing will work for a revolver... learned the hard way you have to cover a bag with leather on my led sled. Took me a little while to clean all the ground walnut shell out of my eyes , ears, mouth and hair. Im interested in a good rest for my revolvers for load development, and accuracy.
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Great thread. I too would love ideas for my revolvers. I will use my sled similar to the one z showed but to shoot a revolver in a very stable manner off of it without damaging the bags I need to rest the barrel as opposed to the trigger guard. This changes point of impact fairly substantially than off the trigger guard which hits the same as my off hand or supported hunting grips. Any thoughts there appreciated. I can shoot great groups off the trigger guard but don't feel it's stable enough for me to do load development with as I am not sure if and extra half an inch in a load is me or the load. I can't complain as my groups are great out to 150 which is as far as I am ever going to hunt with a revolver but my OCD wants me to know where I can squeeze a few fractions of an MOA and know I am maximizing the potential of the gun.
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This is the only revolver rest I have found that works. Otherwise I rest my forearms on a bag or whatever is handy and rest the gun on nothing. I've said it before and I say it again, shooting tiny groups is over-rated.
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Great thread. I too would love ideas for my revolvers. I will use my sled similar to the one z showed but to shoot a revolver in a very stable manner off of it without damaging the bags I need to rest the barrel as opposed to the trigger guard. This changes point of impact fairly substantially than off the trigger guard which hits the same as my off hand or supported hunting grips. Any thoughts there appreciated. I can shoot great groups off the trigger guard but don't feel it's stable enough for me to do load development with as I am not sure if and extra half an inch in a load is me or the load. I can't complain as my groups are great out to 150 which is as far as I am ever going to hunt with a revolver but my OCD wants me to know where I can squeeze a few fractions of an MOA and know I am maximizing the potential of the gun. This was the entire basis for my gun design...
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The backpack works fantastic for revolvers. I put a piece of leather on my pack that extends from the barrel/cylinder gap to the end of the barrel. Used cow leather for years. Have to replace it twice a year. Now I use hide from my elephant and hippo. Never have replaced them. The revolver cradles in the hide with the pack stabilizing my hands and the gun. Sighted in .41, .44, .454, and .500 that way today.Largest group at 100 was 4"- 2 open sights, 2 scoped. No holes in my backpack.
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I've said it before and I say it again, shooting tiny groups is over-rated.
I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Fundamentals is fundamentals. Ya got'em........or ya don't. A benchrest shooter does not automatically equate to a field shooter. But, the basic fundamentals translate exponentially from bench to field. I've seen it time and again. I teach folks to shoot in a comfort zone. Then I take it away. Those that shot well in calm tend to shoot better in chaos. Those that scoff at small groups usually do so because they can't themselves.
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I've said it before and I say it again, shooting tiny groups is over-rated.
I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Fundamentals is fundamentals. Ya got'em........or ya don't. A benchrest shooter does not automatically equate to a field shooter. But, the basic fundamentals translate exponentially from bench to field. I've seen it time and again. I teach folks to shoot in a comfort zone. Then I take it away. Those that shot well in calm tend to shoot better in chaos. Those that scoff at small groups usually do so because they can't themselves. Agree
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I've said it before and I say it again, shooting tiny groups is over-rated.
I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Fundamentals is fundamentals. Ya got'em........or ya don't. A benchrest shooter does not automatically equate to a field shooter. But, the basic fundamentals translate exponentially from bench to field. I've seen it time and again. I teach folks to shoot in a comfort zone. Then I take it away. Those that shot well in calm tend to shoot better in chaos. Those that scoff at small groups usually do so because they can't themselves. My point is, whether your group is 3" ctc or 1" ctc, as long the the center of that group is where you want it to be the job is done. Group size will improve with experience. Take it for what you wish, but it works for me...... There are other forums out there that specialize in punching paper.... Didn't mean that the way it sounds, sorry.
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It doesn't matter whether your load is MOA, if your technique is DOA ;-)
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Well, to be fair, small groups on paper do build confidence. Especially if it's from a field position.
Do you all measure center to center? I always do edge to edge.
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Re: What's your preferred handgun rest?
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Well, to be fair, small groups on paper do build confidence. Especially if it's from a field position.
Agree 100%. But remember I was refering to revolver/pistol rests here. I think we lose sight of the essence of handgun hunting sometimes. With handguns, technique trumps equipment. Long range pistols are another thing.
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The thing with revolvers is that whether you've consumed 2 cans of Red Bull or a bottle of Grain Belt before you touch that first one off can mean 8" at a hundred yards.
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My overall point is, don't get wrapped up in trying to print timy groups by looking for a crutch to do so, unless you can take your crutch with you to the deer woods. I don't expect everyone to agree, nor does it realy matter ;-)
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Agree 100%. But remember I was refering to revolver/pistol rests here. I think we lose sight of the essence of handgun hunting sometimes. With handguns, technique trumps equipment. Long range pistols are another thing. I shoot my revolvers the same way and on the same rests at the bench and in the field as I do my Specialty Pistols. I view them no different than the distance at which they are used. As they say.........it's not what you use...........but how you use it. No?
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Yep. Whatever blows one's dress up.
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I look to find as many rest systems I can to use from the bench and field.
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I think a lot depends on one's handgun philosophy as well.
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Great thread. I too would love ideas for my revolvers. I will use my sled similar to the one z showed but to shoot a revolver in a very stable manner off of it without damaging the bags I need to rest the barrel as opposed to the trigger guard. This changes point of impact fairly substantially than off the trigger guard which hits the same as my off hand or supported hunting grips. Any thoughts there appreciated. I can shoot great groups off the trigger guard but don't feel it's stable enough for me to do load development with as I am not sure if and extra half an inch in a load is me or the load. I can't complain as my groups are great out to 150 which is as far as I am ever going to hunt with a revolver but my OCD wants me to know where I can squeeze a few fractions of an MOA and know I am maximizing the potential of the gun. This was the entire basis for my gun design...
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I think a lot depends on one's handgun philosophy as well. Mine is pretty simple. Hit what I'm aiming at. Not near it. Not around it. But, my actual Point of Aim. And I'll drown as many kittens and slaughter as many sacred cows to do so.
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My gun porn calendar is not yet complete..... ;-) I'll send you a provocative photo of my.........gun. Then, your calendar will be complete.
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For sight-in I usually use a large denim bag filled with scrap plastic pellets (old injection molding resin) with a canvas or leather pad. 2 hand hold with trigger guard and hands buried in the bag. Bottom of non gun hand touching bench. Elbows supported. For hunting I use my backpack on a log or a rock. Very solid. In Africa (and prepping for the trip) I shot from a bamboo tripod with a homemade, clamp on wrist rest. Worked great but too wobbly for sight -in. Good for open field varmints.
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I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Over the years we've had countless friends, cousins, inlaws, friends of inlaws and cousins, etc, come to hunt at the family deer camp. Most could keep a 2" or better group with their rifles off the bench on the 100 yard berm, but many of those same folks would subsequently empty a magazine on a moving buck at a similar distance or less without catching hair. Paper is fine for what it is, a manner in which to align your sights with your bore and check your loads, nothing more nor less IMO.
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I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Over the years we've had countless friends, cousins, inlaws, friends of inlaws and cousins, etc, come to hunt at the family deer camp. Most could keep a 2" or better group with their rifles off the bench on the 100 yard berm, but many of those same folks would subsequently empty a magazine on a moving buck at a similar distance or less without catching hair. Paper is fine for what it is, a manner in which to align your sights with your bore, nothing more nor less IMO. Sounds a little like buck fever, Rod. I have had my issues with it, in my early years.
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I've found, if one cannot shoot well under a controlled environment..........one cannot shoot well outside of one. Over the years we've had countless friends, cousins, inlaws, friends of inlaws and cousins, etc, come to hunt at the family deer camp. Most could keep a 2" or better group with their rifles off the bench on the 100 yard berm, but many of those same folks would subsequently empty a magazine on a moving buck at a similar distance or less without catching hair. Paper is fine for what it is, a manner in which to align your sights with your bore, nothing more nor less IMO. Groupings on paper are a tool to reflects ones basic understanding and application in fundamentals of marksmanship. It is not a direct correlation of ones field shooting ability. But, aside from blind luck or point blank engagements, if you suck at fundamentals.........you suck at field shooting.
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Small groups are a result of consistency.
That of the load, the platform, and the shooter. A fly in any of those ointments is detrimental to consistency.
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Fundamentals is fundamentals, regardless the location
Position/Breathing/Sight Alignment/Trigger Control
Jack any one of those up and things will likely not go your way. On the bench........in the field.........with a rifle........with an handgun.........the ability to control all 4 will only increase your accuracy and precision.
On the bench............or in the field.
You wanna settle for mediocre? Be my guest. You wanna improve upon your skill..........master the above.
And then some.
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