Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 1:09 AM
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I have had a redhawk 44 for about 10 years and shoot it iron sights out to 100 yds and can make consistent hits with it at that range. I just recently bought a super blackhawk in 44 and I can't shoot it anywhere near as good as the redhawk and it has a way better sa trigger. With the redhawk I can shoot a little orange ear plug at 30 yds I do it almost every time I go out and at 30 yds I can shoot a 5 shot group with all touching and look like a 3 shot group and I'm not saying this to say how good of a shot I am, I have just put thousands of rounds down range with the redhawk and can't get use to the all black front sight on the blackhawk. I thought about upgrading the sight but the gun smith at my gunshop said that it is a pain to get the stock front sight off the black hawk. I really like shooting a revolver with iron sights so a scope or red dot sight is not an option for me personally but any advice that yall may have would be appreciated
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 1:13 AM
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Also I have my redhawk sighted in with a dead hold and I was told by a buddy of mine that the super blackhawk was intended for 6 o clock hold... Would yall agree? I have heard that from some of the guys I shoot idpa with that they shoot their revolvers with 6 o clock holds but I shoot all my guns dead on hold
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 1:19 AM
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Also I am shooting a lswc over 19.0 gr of 2400 which out of my redhawk is deadly accurate
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 1:52 AM
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I was told by a buddy of mine that the super blackhawk was intended for 6 o clock hold... Oh bologna! What does a 6 o'clock hold look like on a deer at 100 yards anyway? Group size has little to nothing to do with where you hold the sights, but moreso with how you hold and fire the gun. A center hold is my preference as well. With single action revolvers grip consistancy is paramount to accuracy. You could try smoking your front sight, or get out a file and undercut the ramp to cut the glare, like a patridge sight. I think a little more trigger time will go a long way.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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^^ thanks I forgot to mention It is a black sight and I don't have the best eye sight so I took a little white fingernail polish and put a little on the ramp that way the front doesn't blend in with the rear sight so much. And yes the grip angle took some getting used to but I love how it seems to recoil back into my hand more and makes the recoil not seem as bad
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 11:42 AM
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grip consistency just like s4s4u said. get a new gunsmith. i changed the front sight of mine with a tack hammer. finishing nail, a pair of vice grips, on the kitchen counter. i didnt even scratch the counter which made mother happy.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 12:09 PM
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Eastex, something you may try to help with seeing the sights is something I tried a few days ago. I took a front sight and cut the ramp portion out. When you do this, you are left with a "post" style front. I then center punched and drilled it and installed a fiber optic strand. It turned out pretty good, and it may just be the ticket. I need to use a smaller strand next time and move it up just a touch. This was just a practice run.
I'm not the first to do this, I read about it somewhere. Simple but effective!
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/21/2015 11:54 PM
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Hey Eastex, That's a nice gun you got there. You said you are good with the super red hawk because of the number of rounds you ran thru it. Have you given the new gun it's chance?
I'm a single (widowed) guy who has one of his grand daughters clean my house. She and her friend are both 24. The friend was cleaning up the living room when she ran across my nail polish. Kinda funny conversation there. But the stuff works good on front sites.
Have you ever heard of the hill billy trigger job for that gun? I tried it, and opted to use the stock set up, but if you pull off the grip handles there are two little springs that pull back the trigger. Unhook one and you have a lighter trigger. Unhook both and you have a dangerous gun. Any reasonably safe person can play with this and see how they like it.
My SBH is out on loan right now. I'm kinda jonesing for it.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/22/2015 9:19 AM
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I suggest you buy bright colored model paint at a hobby shop for the front sight or find a true gunsmith to change it for you. Consider getting a pair of Pachmayr grips. The Super Blackhawk should shoot the same as the Redhawk if the barrels / sight radius are the same.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/23/2015 5:33 PM
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Also I have my redhawk sighted in with a dead hold and I was told by a buddy of mine that the super blackhawk was intended for 6 o clock hold Pardon my ignorance, but what's a 6 o'clock hold?
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/23/2015 5:46 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but what's a 6 o'clock hold? 6 o'clock on the left, center hold in the center pic.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/23/2015 5:53 PM
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Thanks, Rod.
Question. I use the hold depicted in image 3 when shooting my 460 (and my 375, come to think of it) with open sights. Am I doing it wrong?
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/23/2015 6:45 PM
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As long as you can hit where you intend to it wouldn't be wrong. I just find the center hold works best for me. Not all sights have little dots to line up like the hold shown on the right. It is easier to line up the top surfaces on standard iron sights and disect the target. I always know where I am that way. Fiber optics can be another story altogether. The 6 o'clock hold is for shooting bullseye competitions at a specific distance, like 25 yards. The idea is that you sight in so the bullet hits 1-1/2" high at that distance, which would be the center of a 3" black bullseye for instance, so you can hold at the bottom of the bull and can see your sights better. Black sights on a black target can be difficult to distinguish.
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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Thanks for the advice fellas I'm gonna spend some more time shooting and stick with it. And dog breath thanks and yes I have played around with that, one thing about me is every gun I buy or own I polish the trigger and sometimes order springs if the polish job isn't good enough. Bad triggers= no fun!
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/24/2015 11:18 PM
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Find a firm consistant repeatable grip that works for you. That for me is the cornerstone of handgun shooting. It has to be consistant and repeatable for the guns do move in your hand with each shot.I use Pachmayr or Hogues on all my guns as they give me the most consistant grip. Everything else builds off of the grip. J.M.H.O.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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06/25/2015 2:22 AM
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Also I have my redhawk sighted in with a dead hold and I was told by a buddy of mine that the super blackhawk was intended for 6 o clock hold Pardon my ignorance, but what's a 6 o'clock hold? 6 o'clock hold is a PITA!!!
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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I find that my Black and SuperBlackhawks are more sensitive to grip pressure than my SRH or RHs are.
Give the gun a fair shake. My SBH's are some of the most accurate firearms I own, if I do my part.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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Painted my blackhawk sight bright orange. BUT with my eyesight now days all I see is the rear sight and an orange BLOB. So I try to use the 6, oclock,,,,,just put the orange blob below the spot I want to hit seriously.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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07/09/2015 12:20 PM
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Also I have my redhawk sighted in with a dead hold and I was told by a buddy of mine that the super blackhawk was intended for 6 o clock hold... Would yall agree? I have heard that from some of the guys I shoot idpa with that they shoot their revolvers with 6 o clock holds but I shoot all my guns dead on hold How you sight the revolver in will determine where you need to hold. If you sight-in for a 6 o'clock hold, then you'll need to use a 6 o'clock hold to hit anything. That said, sight it in the way you prefer to shoot.
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Re: Need a lot of practice with super blackhawk
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I have always sighted my revolvers for six o'clock hold for target practice but, when I am hunting I found out that I automatically aim where I want to hit. I don't know if it is excitement or just a reflex from 49 yrs of hunting. You will have to find out what suites you best.
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