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powerful single shots #166103 11/17/2015 7:45 PM
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After seeing what Franchise did to a large nilgi with his 416 Barnes I became curious as to the power that a single shot handgun can hold. What other single shot handguns do you guys own that are close in power to the 416 barnes??


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The most powerful barrel I have for my Encore is my 15" 300 Win Mag, but that's not even in the same league as Franchise's.


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.445 Super Mag
.460 S&W
.45-70 (used to have)

Those are the over 300 grain launchers that can approach 2,000 fps.


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With the XP action you can go with the 338 Lapua case and improve it. Of course you can neck it up
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If you go with a non designated bolt action, think Chey-Tac case or basically theskyisthelimit.


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My past and present list of "thumpers" are 376 Steyr, 411/338 Win Mag, 416 Barnes, and 475/350 Rem Mag.


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411 JDJ
416 JDJ
475 JDJ
475x2 JDJ
50 Alaskan
All these are thumpers.

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.416 Taylor (full length .458 Mag. necked to .416)-32 yd. Cape buff, 400 gr. Horn. FMJ-dropped. 80 yd. Cape buff, 400 gr. Horn. DGX-dropped. 120 yd. Roan-350 gr. Alaska Bullet Works SP-1 shot. Elephant, 400 gr. Horn FMJ- 3 shots(missed the brain by 6")
.375/.284-AK moose, Shiras moose, hippo-all one shooters.
These are seriously powerful single shots Capable of taking anything that walks ( and a few that don't).

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Single shot 460 S&W is the only single shot barrel I own.


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Re: powerful single shots [Re: jamesfromjersey] #166149 11/18/2015 12:37 AM
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The biggest thumper I have had was a 45/70 Contender. I realized that I don't need that much thunp for the critters I am likely to hunt. More power to y'all that are packin' the mega heat ;-)


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You're right, they certainly aren't needed, but ya gotta admit they are just so much dang fun Rod!!


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But what's wrong with my SSK Custom 416 Rigby I have posted in the bragging board?
my 350gr WFP over 45gr of 5744 still gives me more than a 45-70, and the 350 Speer over a full case of 4831sc qualifies for the 805 Tank Destroyer BTN....but it is a handful. I hope Mr. Black Bear succumbs to it on Saturday!
My 15" 444 Marlin is fun too!


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Re: powerful single shots [Re: Bullelk Hunter] #166195 11/18/2015 4:40 PM
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A .45-70 and a .457GNR (a .45-70 trimmed to 1.61 and loaded with IMR4227)


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My Encore chambered in 378 GNR with a 260 grain bullet carries over 3300 ft-lbs. of energy with a TKO factor of 34.


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Wapitirod has (had?) a 458 Win Mag Encore, and he built at least one 458 Lott Encore for a customer. I don't think you can chamber anything much more powerful in the Encore platform than that.


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 Originally Posted By: TN Lone Wolf
...and he built at least one 458 Lott Encore for a customer.


How would you..... Why would..... Could you....

I WANNA SHOOT IT!!!!!


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You can put the 470 Capstick in a Competitor Single Shot. The 458 Lott in a handgun loaded to its potential, makes the 475 Linebaugh and 500 JRH seem like 38 Specials. The GREAT thing about all of the guys that have these "big" guns is that they use them...they hunt with them...and they take game with them. A big gun is useless if it is not hunted with


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At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


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458 LOTT would DEFINATELY be out of hand! But I would HAVE to try it. Once.

I have a 500JRH, and full house loads with it are enough for me. I shot a full house load out of it single handedly once. Once! And that was only because I thought the voices in my head had a pretty good reason: "If you're going to own this thing, ya have to do it ONE TIME!". Won't be doing that again....

About ten full house loads in the 500JRH and I'm done for the day. 5 If I'm shooting for accuracy. I do have a light load with Titegroup that is pleasant to shoot all day though also.

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Re: powerful single shots [Re: jamesfromjersey] #166212 11/18/2015 9:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??

The older I get, the smaller the caliber gets...
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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


Can't answer that given my lack of experience, but I will say my muzzlebraked 300 Win Mag handgun is very manageable.


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Depends on the weight of the handgun, bullet weight, case capacity, and whether or not it has a brake.
 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


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 Originally Posted By: Russell
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At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??

The older I get, the smaller the caliber gets...
;\)


There is much truth here ^^^

The 45/70 Contender eventually got to be a little too much fun for me ;-)


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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


Too many variables. It depends on the platform used, barrel contour, length , braked or not, overall weight, grip design, etc.


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Started my Large Caliber trip with the 375 JDJ by SSK. With the 270grn Accubonds it was fun.

Then had the chance to get a MOA in .376 Steyr- it is a hoot to shoot and have taken game with it using 225's.
Then I had SSK make me a Contender 45-70 barrel with magnaport and rib. Shooting the 405's gets your attention.
Just recently I stepped off in it and got a Encore MGM full bull 460 S&W with MGM break. Shooting the 250 XTP's is a religious experience. Sheared off the screws that hold a new Bushnell Red Dot on it. Went back with SS screws and so far it is holding. Got a good deal on 100 of the 200 grn all copper Barnes HP bullets.
I have loaded some of them and will try them tomorrow for this next week's deer gun season.

My uncle had a 416 Taylor Rifle built at Champlin Guns in Enid Oklahoma many years back for hunting Alaska and Africa. I helped him zero the rifle. Not sure I would want a pistol in one. I would like to shoot a Encore or MOA in that caliber once.

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Re: powerful single shots [Re: Zee] #166256 11/19/2015 5:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zee
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At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


Too many variables. It depends on the platform used, barrel contour, length , braked or not, overall weight, grip design, etc.


I can tell you that when my FA`s 500WE is loaded with a 400gr jacketed bullet loaded to the max the recoil is literally "out of hand". What caliber single shot has recoil that would exceed that????


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50 Alaskan easily. Although in the spirit of full disclosure I have never shot a 500WE but I think a 535gr at 1800fps would exceed it, and I have shot some of those. My load in my FA 475L is the 425gr WLN @ 1425fps Chrono'ed. Alaskan beats it in the recoil dept.

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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
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At what caliber, do you guys feel, does recoil get "out of hand"??


Too many variables. It depends on the platform used, barrel contour, length , braked or not, overall weight, grip design, etc.


I can tell you that when my FA`s 500WE is loaded with a 400gr jacketed bullet loaded to the max the recoil is literally "out of hand". What caliber single shot has recoil that would exceed that????


I've seen a few listed on this thread that I would suspect generate more felt recoil. Having zero experience with the .500 WE but, plenty of experience with the .40+ rifle cartridges.........they are enlightening in a rifle..........I'd imagine more so in a handgun.

I have rifles chambered in .404 Jeffery and .458 WM. I've oft considered chambering an Encore Pistol in the Jeffery..............just because. Think it would be cool.


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It might break your carney hands
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There is that possibility.


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I know of one prominent single shot barrel maker that will not make another 458 Lott Encore pistol barrel. The one he made resulted in a broken wrist with factory ammo.


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 Originally Posted By: Zee
There is that possibility.

Quit being so agreeable
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Ok.


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you two sound like you would make a wonderful couple


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Ha!


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Super 16/ 45/70 gov. A bbl in .444 marlin..15", no brake. This one demands respect. .444 is on the Encore frame...45/70 is Contender.


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Thanks guys for all your posts.... You truly know your handguns and the rounds they shoot.


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