UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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I've noticed my UltraDot is far too bright on the lowest setting during dawn/dusk. Anyone else had this problem? My old Leupold Gilmore (as far as I tell, the only one in existence that actually worked lol) was great in low light.
Thanks much ...
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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12/15/2015 9:53 AM
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I have had the same problem with my two ultradots. I sometimes also carry a handgun with a 2x scope incase I need it early or late.
Michael Joe Moore
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12/15/2015 10:41 AM
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I don't seem to have that problem. What Ultradot do you have?
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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12/15/2015 12:04 PM
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I only noticed the problem one time in Texas, when I was following a wounded deer. It was pretty much at the end of legal shootig time, though, and I couldn't have seen iron sights and probably couln't have seen the crosshars on a scope.
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12/15/2015 2:57 PM
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I don't seem to have that problem. What Ultradot do you have? Me neither, but mine is an older model. I can turn it down to the point that I can see to shoot by moonlight. No glare at all.
Rod, too.
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12/15/2015 4:39 PM
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PsTaN,
No help on the UD, but I have a Leupold Gilmore sight that is still working just fine. I guess that makes two. One of my earliest red dots, and probably the one that got me hooked on dots.
Craig
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Same boat here, Bearbait, the Leupold hooked me on dots. Glad to see someone else got a good one! I love the Ultadot ...great quality and rugged ... Just blinds me out at shooting time.
I have the standard 1" original UltraDot. I've even wondered if I could find a battery replacement with less juice to solve the issue.
And Redhawk, I too may go the scope route.
Thanks guys ....
PsTaN
-Smith & Wesson Model 69 -Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter -Encore Pro Hunter
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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12/16/2015 12:26 AM
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12/25/2015 5:02 PM
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The Regular UltraDot 30 has a 4 MOA Dot size. It blooms a little in low light. I have this sight on my 480 SRH.
You need to spend a hair more and go with the MatchDot 30. The MatchDot has multiple Dot sizes. Keep it set on 2 MOA, and keep turning it down as the light fades. I end up on 1 by closing time. I have the MatchDot 30 on my 35 Bullberry Super 14 Contender barrel.
I also have a 1 Inch UltraDot. Go with a 30mm, no comparison in the field of view. My 30mm's seem to be much clearer also.
I am starting to replace my Contender Scopes with MatchDots one at a time. The next one will be for a 357 Maximum MGM Barrel.
I am totally sold on UltraDot/MatchDot Red Dot Sights for hunting. I like them way better than scopes for under 100 yards in the woods.
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12/25/2015 5:46 PM
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Go with a 30mm, no comparison in the field of view. When shooting with both eyes open the FOV is irrelevant, at least for me. You don't really "see" the tube at all as it practically disappears. If a one-eyed shooter, then yes, a 30mm will help. Perhaps the 1" tube models aren't as bright, as I have no flare in the tube whatsoever at low light, even in moonlight. I believe I will just stick with the more compact model in the future as well.
Rod, too.
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12/26/2015 4:24 AM
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What I've begun to do is take the dot to 6 o'clock in the tube so only a sliver is showing .... Use that sliver as the aiming point and aim high. It's simply the best I can do to not lose time-on-stand .... The back-blinding is tremendous. So far, I've never used any setting past "2" in any light conditions I'd try to take game in.
I'm thinking "11" would be for shortly after other multiple Suns invade our Solar System! Lol.
The Great Carnac holds an envelope containing a slip of paper reading "Leupold 2X Scope" and gazes my way ....
PsTaN
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The Great Carnac holds an envelope containing a slip of paper reading "Leupold 2X Scope" and gazes my way .... I find LER scopes to be a problem for me in low light in the woods as it can be difficult to make out the reticle. This is why I went to an UltraDot, and I will not go back. Perhaps you just got an especially bright one?
Rod, too.
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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12/28/2015 6:08 PM
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PS,
When a dot is set for a blaze, even in direct sunlight, my guess would be that it is to "fuzz" the dot very bright for speed shooting handguns. Those folks like 7 or 11 moa dots to pick it up fast, and get on a plate or something similar.
With my Trijicon adjustable, at the lowest setting the dot can be made to be perfectly round and small. Crank it up, and even in direct sunlight it is 2-3 times larger. Dot makers have to account for low light precision, as well as users who want fast and furious. No wonder so many folks have issues with dots, their eyes, and finding the right combination.
Craig
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Dot makers have to account for low light precision, as well as users who want fast and furious. No wonder so many folks have issues with dots, their eyes, and finding the right combination. I agree. My old sight would dim enough to give a precise aiming point and not back-blind. And whilst I've stated a 2X scope might be purchased, I really like my UltraDot. Very well constructed and tracked true for an easy sight-in. Save for dawn/dusk I'm more than satisfied with what I have.
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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The Great Carnac holds an envelope containing a slip of paper reading "Leupold 2X Scope" and gazes my way .... I find LER scopes to be a problem for me in low light in the woods as it can be difficult to make out the reticle. This is why I went to an UltraDot, and I will not go back. Perhaps you just got an especially bright one? My exact sentiments. Also hard to press a scope quickly into action whereas the red dot can be used like iron sights with practice. JMHO.
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Re: UltraDot too bright in low light ...
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One solution would be to use something like an UltraDot match dot. When you start to get into darker conditions, switch to a smaller dot size (2 MOA). The smaller size dot will have less effective brightness than the same illumination setting with a larger dot size. It may not be the end all be all of your low light situation but it does help.
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One solution would be to use something like an UltraDot match dot. When you start to get into darker conditions, switch to a smaller dot size (2 MOA). The smaller size dot will have less effective brightness than the same illumination setting with a larger dot size. It may not be the end all be all of your low light situation but it does help. My old sight was a 2 MOA, and I know that has a great deal to do with the brightness and precision of the dot. I almost went with a MatchDot/Weigand Base, but opted to use the Ruger Rings and standard UltraDot.
PsTaN
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"Hold your horses, the elephants are coming, and out stamped Alabama"
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Whitworth, I love RedDot sights ... Very easy to use and intuitive ... And why I went with one to begin with. I've actually been reading reviews of the Trijicon MRO. I could take that path or stay where I'm at as well.
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