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02/27/2016 1:24 AM
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My wonderful wife surprised me with a gift of a new, S&W 460XVR 8 3/8" X frame revolver. I need advice on a flat shooting load for deer sized game. Based on advice from a few others I am considering starting with H-110 and the Hornady 300 gr XTP.
I would also like suggestions for a good scope mount for hunting.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/27/2016 2:09 AM
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I'll say. Does she have a sister???
Rod, too.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/27/2016 3:52 PM
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If s4s4u gets her sister I will settle for one of her friends. You are a lucky man! Great gun too!
I would go with the 240 XTP Mag for deer. Less recoil. Flatter trajectory. Adequate for deer. The 300 is excellent but I don't think it is necessary for PA. deer. Maybe large muleys or elk. I have been playing with the .454 Casull and this is the conclusion I have come to. For deer I don't feel the need for anything bigger than .44 Mag. but if you've got it . . . Flaunt it!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/27/2016 8:23 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I have taken quite a few deer with 240 XTPs in a 44 mag. Great bullet. Thanks.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
[Re: billa]
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02/28/2016 12:01 AM
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Congrats on the new gun, the 460 is a awesome deer round, in mine I use the 200gr. FTX bullet.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/28/2016 2:44 PM
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Congrats on the new gun, the 460 is a awesome deer round, in mine I use the 200gr. FTX bullet. +2 I plan on taking a Antelope this year with it.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/29/2016 2:55 PM
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I'd say use the scam bullets too. I took my first handgun deer with the 12" 460 S&W revolver from the Performance Center. Used those factory loads from Hornady back then just cause that's the only bullets they had on the shelf. I have since switched to handloading the 300gr XTP MAG's in my 460 for everything.
Those 240 scam bullets will do great on deer and rabid squirrels though! :-)
Last edited by Raptortrapper; 02/29/2016 2:56 PM.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/29/2016 7:33 PM
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I'd say use the scam bullets too. I took my first handgun deer with the 12" 460 S&W revolver from the Performance Center. Used those factory loads from Hornady back then just cause that's the only bullets they had on the shelf. I have since switched to handloading the 300gr XTP MAG's in my 460 for everything.
Those 240 scam bullets will do great on deer and rabid squirrels though! :-) It also, helps hitting the vitals as well!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/29/2016 7:37 PM
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Nice score, Billa! Congrats on the new gun, the 460 is a awesome deer round, in mine I use the 200gr. FTX bullet. +2 I plan on taking a Antelope this year with it. Duke, what do you plan to use on the buffalo?
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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02/29/2016 7:42 PM
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So, much to choose from! I'm thinking FA83 475 or S&W 500. Freedom 454 isn't out either. Hell! Bring them all. Ruger has been great to me and the family. The new addition added, will most likely, be used.😀
Thanks, Gregg!
Look forward to another year, of hunting together.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/01/2016 2:39 AM
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I'm quite partial to the 240 grain XTP-Mag and H110.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/01/2016 2:56 AM
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At this point I will likely start off with H-110 powder and the 240XTP mag and 300XTP mag bullets. I want to be around 2000 - 2100fps for a flat shooting hunting round.
Any suggestions for a mild 45 LC level load - in a 460 case - for plinking. I do not want to shoot "short" brass in the cylinder and require lead ring scrubbing.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... "
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/01/2016 2:57 AM
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Also... Does anyone know where I can get an unported comp insert for the X frame?
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/01/2016 4:27 AM
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At this point I will likely start off with H-110 powder and the 240XTP mag and 300XTP mag bullets. I want to be around 2000 - 2100fps for a flat shooting hunting round. Using the 240 grain and 47.5 grains of H110, I can get 2000 fps out of mine. Any suggestions for a mild 45 LC level load - in a 460 case - for plinking. I do not want to shoot "short" brass in the cylinder and require lead ring scrubbing. I've done a bit of load development using Unique. Need to get back to testing that, come to think of it. Like you, I don't like shooting the shorter rounds in mine if I can avoid it.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/02/2016 11:29 PM
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For plinking loads in a 460 Trail Boss is GREAT.. Speer #13 has some great reduced loads w/240/250gr loads in the 1700fps range.
l prefer Horady's 225FTX for reduced loads. Max for them app 1600..
l only use 460 brass ln my 460PC 10 1/2''
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/03/2016 2:18 AM
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Agree with sw282. I use Trail Boss with Berry's 250 gr. TCJ truncated cone, at about 1100 fps. It duplicates a 45 Colt; however, loaded in the 460 S&W brass doesn't present chamber cleaning issues that the shorter cartridge would. Be sure not to exceed 1250-1300 fps with the plated bullets in the 460. I was shooting clouds of lead from the muzzle.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/03/2016 12:37 PM
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I've been using the 200 gr. FTX for whitetail in MO. All have had a very rapid allergic reaction to them. Using 300 xtp mag for anything bigger.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/09/2016 8:38 AM
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Grizzly Ammo makes a 300gr Swift Aframe load @ 2000fps in 460S&W Mag..
Adequate for most "locals" in North America...
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/12/2016 2:57 AM
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I use the Barnes 200 gr. XPB bullets in mine. The Hornady 240 XTP is also a good choice.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/12/2016 3:31 PM
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Sw282... 1700 fps " plinking loads". This 460 is gonna be fun!
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... "
Matthew 28:19
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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03/12/2016 3:37 PM
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I am getting my gear together.
RCBS dies
Starline brass
Fed 210 rifle primers
H-110 powder
Still need bullets. I will be shopping for 240XTP mag bullets next Sat. (3/19) at the Harrisburg Gun Show.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... "
Matthew 28:19
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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04/11/2016 3:24 AM
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Shot my first full house 460 loads today. Awesome gun. Tremendous noise / pressure / muzzle blast. Pleasant recoil. About like my Redhawk 44 mag with 240 XTPs but a softer recoil due to gun weight. Fun to shoot.
I got 1950 fps with 46 grains of H-110 topped with a 240 XTP mag bullet. Fed 210 primer, Starline brass. Brass fell out, primers not flattened. Pleasant load. Time to load 50 and get back to the range.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... "
Matthew 28:19
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/07/2016 1:54 AM
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Hey Billa, have you taken it back out to the range yet?
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/07/2016 2:31 PM
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I took the 460 with me to fishing camp a couple weekends ago for the traditional "woodpile" plinking outing. We shot 30 rounds or so at various objects- steel plates, wood blocks, water jugs, etc. Impact performance was very impressive. Definitely rifle like. Much more devastating than the 44 Magnum. I will probably play around with the open sights for another month or so and then mount a 2-6 Bushnell elite and get serious about tuning for accuracy. I will say that my first impression is quite positive. Its an amazing weapon!
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,... "
Matthew 28:19
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/07/2016 5:20 PM
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They are the ultimate deer gun!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/07/2016 7:27 PM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-)
Rod, too.
Short cuts often lead to long recoveries.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 1:34 AM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Do you have personal experience with the 460 in a revolver or a single shot?
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 3:23 PM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Do you have personal experience with the 460 in a revolver or a single shot? I do and I agree that it is debatable!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 3:42 PM
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Not saying or agreeing that it is the ultimate. But, the two deer I've taken with a .460 S&W didn't seem willing............or capable...........of much debate. The results were pretty definitive.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 3:50 PM
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My point is that whitetail don't take a lot of killing and pretty much any revolver one is capable of accurately and consistently placing their shots with is going tip over a whitetail.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 4:20 PM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Do you have personal experience with the 460 in a revolver or a single shot? No, but that is not the point. To say that any handgun platform is the "ultimate" deer gun is a stretch, IMO. I'd opine that my 6" Bisley in 45 Colt is the "ultimate" deer gun for MN whitetails and the way I prefer to hunt. It is relatively cheap to shoot and easy on the ears as well as the wrist. It can kill effectively as far out as I care to shoot a revolver at game. It is easily carried on the belt and quick to deploy. What's not to love ;-)
Rod, too.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/08/2016 5:27 PM
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Heathens! My 300 Win Mag Encore is the ultimate handgun, period!  
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/09/2016 12:32 AM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Do you have personal experience with the 460 in a revolver or a single shot? I do and I agree that it is debatable! This is a matter of personal opinion,Killed a shitload of deer with the 460, X frame and the Encore, the round offers range and power, match the bullet to the game hunted!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/09/2016 1:09 AM
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Do you have personal experience with the 460 in a revolver or a single shot? No, but that is not the point. To say that any handgun platform is the "ultimate" deer gun is a stretch, IMO. I'd opine that my 6" Bisley in 45 Colt is the "ultimate" deer gun for MN whitetails and the way I prefer to hunt. It is relatively cheap to shoot and easy on the ears as well as the wrist. It can kill effectively as far out as I care to shoot a revolver at game. It is easily carried on the belt and quick to deploy. What's not to love ;-) Rod, we all have different hunting styles, what works for you , may not work for me, I prefer to snipe deer out of a treestand, for boars I like to spot and stalk, there are lots of guns out there, I called this one ultimate because I have killed several animals with it, more with this gun than the others, I have never recovered a bullet, at the shot, most of the time , they are right there in a pile, the thing I have learned is to stay off the shoulder with this round.... not pretty.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/09/2016 12:26 PM
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This is my chief complaint about the .460 XVR (but can be applied really to any X-frame). 
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/09/2016 10:36 PM
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They do run a touch on the big side!!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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They are the ultimate deer gun! That's debateable ;-) Here is my 2 cents on the 460 in the X frame. I have been hunting only with handguns for 36 years and have killed dozens of whitetails with various 44 magnum revolvers (iron and scoped) plus quite a few with the Contender 358JDJ. From a ballistics perspective the 358 is a superior killer at any range but really separates itself out past 100 yards. That being said even after many offhand kills with the Contender I prefer the pointability of a big revolver in the thick woods. Even the X frame. What the X frame gives me with a 2-6 scope is a offhand hammer for quick close shots under 50 yards and the 200 yard flat shooting, " big hole" full penetration that I get from my 358 JDJ. For me its the best of both rolled into one. Perhaps no other gun can do that.
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/11/2016 1:34 AM
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You got yourself a fine deer gun Bill, you wont be sorry!
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/11/2016 2:55 AM
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You got yourself a fine deer gun Bill, you wont be sorry! X2
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Re: S&W 460 XVR revolver
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05/23/2016 3:23 AM
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I have the 460 xvr and a 460 encore. Both are accurate and capable of long range accuracy. I use the 200 flex tips with ww296. By far my favorite handguns.
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