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Prelude To Joe's Story #173682 10/06/2016 11:56 AM
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Not all elk hunts start out perfectly but this was one for the record.

I had talked to a friend whom I now know was only a casual aquaintance all these 30 some years and found out about a GMU in Colorado that I decided Joe should apply for after 23 years of building up preference points. This "friend" told us that he had bow hunted the area for 24 days, knew it very well and he would accompany us and "guide" us and wanted to trade with me to get in on one of my hunts. (BTW he had hit a "big bull" at 16 yards and unfortunately was unable to recover it.) Even though prior to the hunt I had told my "friend" about Joe's cervical fusions and handicaps, not to mention that he lives in Arizona and would need to acclimate a little bit to the 8500 feet elevation we would be hunting, (plus "John" knows me well enough that he is familiar with my leg surgery and knee replacements the past three years) on the very first morning he took us down a slope that was ensnarled in deep black spruce and ponderosa trees and blowdown that was so steep you had to grab onto branches and slide down on your butt in places and to where he even fell a couple times, not to mention my brave son Joe; (BTW what a trooper Joe is!) and where one tumble that I took left cuts and bruises. After several hours of this, when we miraculously got to the bottom without anybody getting seriously hurt, I sucked it up and as nicely as I could, I patiently took it up with John. He then told us to our faces that we were "too slow" and that he "couldn't go any slower," and that on the first day he "scares his clients to death," and that he hated people and that he hated dogs. I asked him what this hunt had to do with him hating dogs and he gave me his infamous "deer scared in the headlights" look. He responded by telling me five or six different times that I "had never hunted elk." And he insulted Joe's physical abilities and told him that Joe's father (me) had questionable hunting skills.

When we finally got back to camp and Joe and I basically told him that we wanted to hunt together without him to enjoy some father-son quality time, he told me how I should hunt the area for the next day, and gave me some advice on landmarks which proved to be so far off, it was ridiculous.

So the next day after being in this brand new area for only 36 hours, I came up with a plan and took Joe and did the exact opposite of what John had suggested.

Well in spite of our "guides" tactics and intentions, Joe and I had a great time and this hunt proved to be incredible in many ways; and what is proving out to be so very funny is that I am getting incredibly sarcastic feed back from this character; in short our so-called friendship is about over with.

Joe and I arrived back at my house barely a few hours ago and as I sit here and write this in the wee wee morning hours, it has started snowing for the first time this year. I know that it is The Good Lord's way of telling me that He is glad that we are home.

Please stay tuned as Joe will be posting his story soon.


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Gregg Richter] #173683 10/06/2016 12:18 PM
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looking forward to the story and I know the type.


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: reflex264] #173685 10/06/2016 12:53 PM
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What a jerk. Glad to hear you two had a good time regardless.


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Gregg Richter] #173689 10/06/2016 4:16 PM
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Sounds like a peach of a guy, Gregg


Hope you and Joe salvaged the trip despite the doofus

Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: SChunter] #173690 10/06/2016 4:44 PM
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I realy don't understand people like that. Maybe I'm old school but I don't talk bad about people. Now he has shown his true colors and you know. Glad you and Joe had a good hunt and didn't let one !@#$$%@#$%& ruin it for you. Looking forward to the rest of the story.

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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: junebug] #173700 10/06/2016 6:03 PM
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That's unbelievable - does this guy think a reputation like that is a good one?


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Gary] #173703 10/06/2016 6:17 PM
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Gary, Joe and I are still shaking our heads over this guy. Before I knew him, "John" and a partner had bought out a successful outfitting company but about the time I met him, they went out of business.







Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Gregg Richter] #173722 10/07/2016 1:01 AM
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That guy sounds like a real moron! Look forward to hearing about the rest of the hunt.


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: pab1] #173751 10/07/2016 6:05 PM
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a real Sh-ithead...............


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: jamesfromjersey] #173948 10/14/2016 11:58 PM
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I guess elk hunting trips are not like trips to vegas (what happens in vegas..) There are two sides to most stories.

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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: sawtooth] #173960 10/15/2016 4:45 AM
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 Originally Posted By: sawtooth
I guess elk hunting trips are not like trips to vegas (what happens in vegas..) There are two sides to most stories.


????? Joe and Gregg are both very experienced hunters, not newbies hoping for a canned hunt. They were very clear about their limitations due to medical issues prior to the hunt.


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: pab1] #173963 10/15/2016 5:06 AM
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sawtooth: not sure where you are going with this but if it is meant to be negative then help yourself and please don't bother to read any of my posts or articles.







Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: sawtooth] #173976 10/15/2016 9:16 PM
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 Originally Posted By: sawtooth
I guess elk hunting trips are not like trips to vegas (what happens in vegas..) There are two sides to most stories.


Care to elaborate?


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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Chance Weldon] #173997 10/16/2016 1:39 PM
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He does not like Dogs either! WOW
Glad to hear that you both ended up not getting injured seriously, and still had a good adventure.

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Re: Prelude To Joe's Story [Re: Bob Roach] #174004 10/16/2016 4:29 PM
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Bob, You are correct, sir. These cowboys own a ranch in the area and they run their cattle on the Uncompahgre National Forest. They told me they pack out on average 15 to 20 elk per year; they post a sign on the main dirt road in the area.

Packing elk out on horseback is my favorite thing to do with my horses other than hunting with them. (see my avatar) My horses were left at home for this trip.








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