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 Beefed up 1911
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12/09/2016 5:39 AM
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Hoggin
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 really beefed up from 45 acp to 6.5 creed more...just got done chambering and contouring the barrel...now to fit a brake and hot blue! More to come.
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 Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Hoggin]
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12/09/2016 3:07 PM
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Ernie
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I am really looking forward to seeing the finished product and shooting it.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/09/2016 3:52 PM
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karl
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Looks like a fun story. looking forward to a write up of some sort.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: karl]
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12/09/2016 5:12 PM
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KRal
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Hmmmmm.....This has got me curious.
It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: KRal]
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12/09/2016 6:08 PM
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junebug
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Looks like a Dominator? setup.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: junebug]
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12/09/2016 6:19 PM
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Ernie
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You are correct junebug. The factory 308 Win barrel did real good with factory ammo at 200 yards.  
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Ernie]
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12/09/2016 9:45 PM
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Hoggin
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It killed on both ends in 308
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Hoggin]
#176164
12/09/2016 11:31 PM
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junebug
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Not really the best grip in the world for Heavy recoil!Shot really well though .Why the caliber change?
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: junebug]
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12/09/2016 11:48 PM
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Ernie
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It is a switch barrel set-up 
I will use the Creed more often in reality as well.
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Ernie]
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12/10/2016 12:08 AM
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Raptortrapper
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I have never seen anything like that in my life!!!
A lot of people are like a slinky: Not much fun till you push them down the stairs!
Lifetime Member of the NRA! Wish I'd a done it sooner.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Raptortrapper]
#176172
12/10/2016 12:42 AM
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PsTaN
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LOL. Probably gonna need some new springs. LOL
On a serious note ... cool stuff!
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/10/2016 12:59 AM
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Mark Hampton
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Back in the day -- perhaps late 70s or early 80s, Hal Swiggett let me shoot one he had in .308 while hunting on the Y.O. Ranch. My hand has never let me forget it!
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/10/2016 1:24 AM
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Ernie
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Muzzle brakes are your friend here
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Ernie]
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12/10/2016 2:02 AM
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Mark Hampton
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Back in those days you didn't see muzzle brakes.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Mark Hampton]
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12/10/2016 2:31 AM
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Hoggin
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Back in those days you didn't see muzzle brakes. back in those days men were tough....now we have men like ernie....nuff said
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Mark Hampton]
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12/10/2016 3:52 AM
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Ernie
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Back in those days you didn't see muzzle brakes. Very true. But since we do now, why suffer needlessly???
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Hoggin]
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12/10/2016 3:57 AM
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cherokeetracker
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6.5 creedmoor a 260 or a 6.5 JDJ what's not to like in the 6.5s
Good fun sounds like to me.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: cherokeetracker]
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12/10/2016 4:04 AM
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cherokeetracker
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Can't wait to see what loads you use and if your targets look like the other one,,,,, lookout critters
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: cherokeetracker]
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12/10/2016 4:05 AM
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Ernie
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Chris' hand feeling the love with the unbraked 308 Win and 168 SMACKS. 
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/10/2016 9:09 PM
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Chance Weldon
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The real question is, how many rounds does the magazine hold?  
Formerly TN Lone Wolf
"We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided." - J.K. Rowling
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Chance Weldon]
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12/11/2016 2:08 AM
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Ernie
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uh........................ZERO/NONE/NOTTA/ZILCH
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/15/2016 7:32 AM
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jamesfromjersey
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  top photo shows my 7-08 Dominator while bottom photo shows my special order 30-30 Dominator......the recent top photo shows all the different caliber conversion kits I can install on the same Colt frame....7-08 - 22lr - 10mm - 45acp - 45acp carbine. The Dominator always fascinated me from the first time I looked at Pachmyer`s catalog when it was released. Went and bought their video with Hal Swiggett hunting rams at a California ranch and then called and had them make me a special order in 30-30. Used it many years ago to shoot whitetail. A special needs handgun hunter asked to buy it and I sold.... Ran into a 7-08 Dominator kit from a guy in Texas and bought it because I was sorry I let the first one go. Nosler factory 120gr BT ammo is accurate and fairly easy to shoot. No need for heavier bullet weight on medium size game....I wrote a short member article last August titled "Double Duty Handguns" which was a take off on an old Wiley Clapp article of the same name. I describe the Dominator and other double duty handguns......
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: cherokeetracker]
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12/15/2016 1:59 PM
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Ernie
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Can't wait to see what loads you use and if your targets look like the other one,,,,, lookout critters H-4350 is about the most popular powder for the rifle guys. I might go a smidgen faster with Varget. Will run the 123-143 gran bullets/Hornady brass. It is getting closer to getting done. Bluing is the next step
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: jamesfromjersey]
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12/15/2016 2:00 PM
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Ernie
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top photo shows my 7-08 Dominator while bottom photo shows my special order 30-30 Dominator......the recent top photo shows all the different caliber conversion kits I can install on the same Colt frame....7-08 - 22lr - 10mm - 45acp - 45acp carbine. The Dominator always fascinated me from the first time I looked at Pachmyer`s catalog when it was released. Went and bought their video with Hal Swiggett hunting rams at a California ranch and then called and had them make me a special order in 30-30. Used it many years ago to shoot whitetail. A special needs handgun hunter asked to buy it and I sold.... Ran into a 7-08 Dominator kit from a guy in Texas and bought it because I was sorry I let the first one go. Nosler factory 120gr BT ammo is accurate and fairly easy to shoot. No need for heavier bullet weight on medium size game....I wrote a short member article last August titled "Double Duty Handguns" which was a take off on an old Wiley Clapp article of the same name. I describe the Dominator and other double duty handguns...... Seriously some cool stuff there!
Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Ernie]
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12/15/2016 2:16 PM
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Hoggin
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 almost there
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/15/2016 3:28 PM
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I suppose the imagination is the limit. That's pretty dang cool.
My filter is broken.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Handgun400]
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12/15/2016 5:05 PM
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junebug
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You use a lot of the Radial port brakes instead of side discharge,any reason? Seems like they would kick up more trash from the ground. Are they just as efficient?
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: junebug]
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12/15/2016 5:15 PM
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Hoggin
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I think they work just as well but I actually use both. Only time it's a problem is if you shoot prone
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Raptortrapper]
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12/17/2016 4:10 PM
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Hoggin]
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12/17/2016 4:24 PM
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junebug
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That ought to work. Nicely done!!!!!!!!!!!!! How muzzle heavy does it feel?
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/17/2016 5:28 PM
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Hoggin
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Just a little. Made the barrel slightly larger than factory. Still very easy to point. Should be able to shoot free hand
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: junebug]
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12/17/2016 7:56 PM
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jamesfromjersey
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thanks Ernie for your nice words......
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Charlie SA]
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12/19/2016 4:24 PM
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It's one of the many cheap 1980 aftermarket frames. I'm not in the shop and can't remember.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/19/2016 9:09 PM
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Andre
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Recoil from a 308? Try this one. A slight variation of a 45 Raptor. I used a .458 barrel rather than .452. A rimless 460 S&W Magnum.  THIS recoils! I have replaced the mainspring housing with a flat one and curved the bottom corner of the house and frame, but it just plain hurts...can fire it three times in a row is all. Then I am done.
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/19/2016 9:25 PM
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Ernie
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Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/19/2016 9:48 PM
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Zee
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"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Zee]
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12/20/2016 10:50 AM
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Charlie SA
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After market frame close enough.
Thanks
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Re: Beefed up 1911
[Re: Charlie SA]
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12/20/2016 2:02 PM
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Ernie
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Ernie the Un-Tactical
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Re: Beefed up 1911
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12/20/2016 5:31 PM
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.588 outside with factory ammo  
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