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Re: XTP Jacket Separation - 44 Mag [Re: Whitworth] #176474 12/16/2016 4:00 AM
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in fact, he took my gun i had loaded with a-frames to finally kill it.

Re: XTP Jacket Separation - 44 Mag [Re: Whitworth] #176486 12/16/2016 9:16 PM
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Unless we're talking about blasting prairie dogs, jacket/core separation is a failure. Whether or not it killed the target animal is really irrelevant. I've had big game bullets come apart and regardless of the result, I stopped using them. I've had XTP's come apart in SIMTEST so you can bet your hind cheek that I will not be using them on game. Conversely, I've driven Gold Dots way too fast and had them come apart but the core and jacket never separated.


Re: XTP Jacket Separation - 44 Mag [Re: Craig44] #176487 12/16/2016 9:35 PM
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Looks like 300 gr XTP'S out of my Super Redhawk...


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Re: XTP Jacket Separation - 44 Mag [Re: Whitworth] #176514 12/18/2016 12:25 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
 Originally Posted By: racksmasher1
 Originally Posted By: Whitworth
 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
interesting post.....a real eye opener in more ways then one.....
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You can say that again.....

As far as core separation is concerned, even if the bullet kills the animal, in my eyes it has failed. In my eyes, you might have gotten lucky that the separation happened the way it did, but will it next time? Too many uncertainties with inconsistent bullet performance. I saw a bunch of different hard casts last October perform in various ways, that left an impression. All killed, but a number of them failed in my opinion. Nothing turns me off more than inconsistency.

For those who didn't see this before, these two 300 grain Mag XTPs (.45 Colt) were shot into a live Red Stag and they didn't perform as advertised in the least. The first one made it through a shoulder but the only piece we found was on the inside of the offside ribcage. The other hit shoulder, folded its nose over and hooked a hard right and still remained on the onside.







The stag only weighed about 350-lbs. Food for thought.

Zee, can I get a sweater vest too? I'll send you the hair (of unknown origin)......
Whit, what gun were you using, what was the barrel length, and how fast were you pushing it?


My buddy was using a 7 1/2-inch Bisley in .45 Colt. I think the bullets were traveling around 1,200 fps at the muzzle. Both tradmark and I were witness to this.
I have a new 7.5" Blackhawk in 45 Colt, trying to find a HAMMER of a load for it, using a 300 gr. gas checked bullet.

Re: XTP Jacket Separation - 44 Mag [Re: Zee] #176541 12/19/2016 6:43 AM
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I thought about sharing XTP hunting trips and stories from camp.. I have both good and bad. And a fair understanding of both.......But I started laughing so hard that I thought I might die!!

The sweater with the "Rain-Deer-Train"...is just too much!...hahahhaaa! I don't care who you are...that's damn funny!
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