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Powder Coated Bullets #176868 12/30/2016 1:25 PM
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I have not shot many of the powder coated cast bullets, but the few I have tried shot just as accurately and a lot cleaner than the traditionally lubed bullets. The velocities did not show a gain from regular cast thru my chrono. I have only tried 255 swc with a bevel base in my 45 colt and 357 mag with 180 WFN. The fact that they keep the revolver cleaner is big with me because of tight tolerances with my FA83 and JRH massaged revolvers. Why don't I see more hunting bullets cast this way? Is there disadvantages that I am not aware of with them?

Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: dhom] #176869 12/30/2016 4:09 PM
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Is there disadvantages that I am not aware of with them?


Not at all. I just think it is relatively new and the suppliers are just catching on. Missouri Bullet Company offers many varieties:

http://missouribullet.com/results.php?pageNum_rsCWResults=0&category=20


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Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: s4s4u] #176874 12/31/2016 3:26 AM
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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
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Is there disadvantages that I am not aware of with them?


Not at all. I just think it is relatively new and the suppliers are just catching on. Missouri Bullet Company offers many varieties:

http://missouribullet.com/results.php?pageNum_rsCWResults=0&category=20



I recently tried the 255 SWC from MO Bullet in four different 45 Colt revolvers. One Colt, one Ruger, and two S&W's. All four guns leaded terribly when velocity reached 900 fps. None of these guns have near as much leading with my normally cast/lubed bullets. I won't be buying anymore.

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Muddy,, I am very surprised my results were so different from yours. I used the very same bullet in 2 of my 45's @ 1000+ fps and no leading at all. The load was 20 gr IMR4227/WLP and also with 13 gr HS-6 same primer. The 180 WFN .358 cast was shot at max in a GP100 6" tube. Also clean as can be expected. The bullets were from Missouri bullet Co. I wonder if anyone else had such inconsistencies?

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dhom, that's interesting. I was expecting the results that you were able to get and was both surprised and disappointed. I notice on the web site different color coatings but doubt that has anything to do with the leading. I may have to make a phone call before I write them off permantly. I do use MO Bullet quite a bit and have been completely satisfied with them to this point. It seemed that the coated bullets were nothing more than un-lubed lead!

I will say that the coated bullets shot accurate in the above mentioned Colt, a 2nd Gen New Frontier that has been a challenge.

Dan

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I would call and explain your results to them. I don't believe that it is typical. Missouri bullets are priced right if you shoot a lot. I think they will help you with your situation.

Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: Muddy] #176932 01/01/2017 4:43 PM
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It seemed that the coated bullets were nothing more than un-lubed lead!


You don't suppose?!?


Rod, too.

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Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: dhom] #176933 01/01/2017 5:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: dhom
Muddy,, I am very surprised my results were so different from yours. I used the very same bullet in 2 of my 45's @ 1000+ fps and no leading at all. The load was 20 gr IMR4227/WLP and also with 13 gr HS-6 same primer. The 180 WFN .358 cast was shot at max in a GP100 6" tube. Also clean as can be expected. The bullets were from Missouri bullet Co. I wonder if anyone else had such inconsistencies?


I run their 180gr WFN-PB in my GP-100 with a max load of H110 and it leads the barrel a lot. Smokes a lot as well.

Accurate load.........but still leads and smokes


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I've used Bayou and have seen no leading and acceptable accuracy. I've never pushed harder than 1100 fps though.


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Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: Zee] #176961 01/02/2017 11:58 AM
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Muddy,, I am very surprised my results were so different from yours. I used the very same bullet in 2 of my 45's @ 1000+ fps and no leading at all. The load was 20 gr IMR4227/WLP and also with 13 gr HS-6 same primer. The 180 WFN .358 cast was shot at max in a GP100 6" tube. Also clean as can be expected. The bullets were from Missouri bullet Co. I wonder if anyone else had such inconsistencies?


I run their 180gr WFN-PB in my GP-100 with a max load of H110 and it leads the barrel a lot. Smokes a lot as well. You guys are making me think my results were not typical. I had no leading and very little smoke. I bought the bullets I have when they first started powder coating. I wonder if they haven't changed something since that time. Have anyone of you guys told MB your results.

Accurate load.........but still leads and smokes

Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: dhom] #176986 01/02/2017 9:56 PM
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I push my 357 158gr and 44mag 240gr well over 1500fps, zero leading after 100 rounds of preseason practice, but mine came from SNS.
The only fact i have seen with PC boolits, you either LOVE them, or totally despise them

Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: dogknott] #177031 01/03/2017 2:48 PM
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Wow this has been an interesting read. I have shot many cast and many PCed bullets. Big difference here is that I did not Purchase the Powder Coated Bullets.
I was given some Hy-Tek bullets and seemed to perform well. They were accurate and did not see any leading. That has been several years ago and now I don't remember if they were PB or GC.
I still do shoot lead with Lube the most.
I have used the 429215 bullet in my 44 mag with wonderful results. I have some PB that I powder coated myself and some GC also. The Gas Check has to be added after the PC is done which makes for more work. This is probably the reason that you will not find any for sale. AT least I have not seen them, and the price would probably be not what I would want to pay, but who knows? The big thing with PCing your own is that you can quench them in some Ice Water or water, or just let them air cool. This can bring the brinell back to whatever you may want. Let them sit for several days and check them again. Some of them are hard. This helps when shooting them faster. The GC also helps. ( BTW I am pushing the 429215 around 1400 FPS) SO, do I have the answer? NO,,, But one other thing I want to say here is that barrels have something to do with all this. A polished barrel tends to lead less than a rough barrel. Now remember that along with most here, I too, try to keep everything correct, such as chamber throats and sized bullets. Powder combinations need to be considered as well.
Last thing is that a lot of the Polymer or coated bullets I see for sale have a bevel base and this is not something that I want.
The thing that seemed to be said the most was the accuracy of the powder coated bullets. But you still have to start with a good accurate bullet. I have tried some cowboy bullets, both lead and coated and saw no difference. The 45 cal 335gr loaded with a heavy dose of H110 in both lead and PCed ( both have GC ) the PC gave a slight edge over the uncoated.
Is the extra work worth it? You alone can weigh the cost and decide.

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Re: Powder Coated Bullets [Re: cherokeetracker] #177111 01/05/2017 11:20 AM
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My shooting is limited with PC more because they seem to be "mostly" target bullets. I love a great looking target with a small group on them but, I also want to be able to hunt with them.


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