460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 3:40 PM
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Randy M
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To summarize previous posts, I own a 15" 460 barrel for my encore. I'm eventually going to send it off for a brake and TSOB.
My next question...how short could I realistically chop this sucker down to and not lose too much performance? My ultimate goal for this barrel is a 100 yard scoped Texas gun, good for everything from whitetails to nilgai.
Maybe it's the revolver guy in me, but I like shorter barrels when possible. But...I don't want to lose so much performance in doing so that it becomes a glorified .45/.454.
Thanks everyone!
Randy
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 3:55 PM
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Do you like the current length? Big holes don't suffer as badly from barrel length loss as small bores. If 100 yards is your limit I think you could cut it back to 8" without worrying about it becoming a "glorified 45/454", but if you like the handling as is just have them cut it so it finishes at 15" with the brake. It will obviously be a bit lighter in the muzzle.
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 4:56 PM
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I would suspect it is more a function of shoot-ability/recoil/comfort and handling then performance. Zee recently built a 50 cal handgun with a short barrel. Perhaps he could comment. Most of the published 460 load data seems to be with an 8.4" barrel. I would think the lack of cylinder gap/closed breach and difference in barrel length measuring methods would probably all factor each other out.
If you really want to test it out, get a chronograph and start cutting the barrel down your self and then send it out to be finished and mount the brake.
Last edited by karl; 02/08/2018 4:58 PM.
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 5:27 PM
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I'd say 12" barrel, then add the brake...you'll have great performance and the barrel won't feel like a broom stick. Handgun rounds handle shorter barrels just fine, rifle rounds in pistols need at least 13" barrels (preferably 15") for adequate powder burn or you're just defeating the purpose.
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 5:46 PM
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In a Contender, a 10" barrel seems very short and handy. It turns the Contender into a dandy off-hand gun. The Encore may be different. The lack of a B/C gap makes it ballistically superior to a revolver at any reasonable length, so you have a lot of flexibility. I imagine you'd be pleased with a barrel/brake length of 10" and still have plenty of runway.
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 8:15 PM
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Thanks everyone! Pretty much the responses I expected. I was leaning towards a 5" hair cut, then adding the brake from there for a total of roughly 12". I just wanted to confirm my thinking. Should be one heckuva thumper in a small-ish package.
This is turning into a very expensive barrel. Oh the addiction is strong...
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 8:22 PM
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The mods will be well worth their costs my friend! You'll be really happy with it
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Re: 460 Encore barrel length question
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02/08/2018 10:59 PM
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I had a 14" barrel with a 2" brake made by MGM on a T/C Pro Hunter. Absolutely loved it. The 460 is an AWESOME cartridge in my opinion. Even better suited for a carbine, but still awesome in a revolver / single shot. Certainly one of my top three favorite guns I've ever had.
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